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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


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Ëåäÿíàÿ êðèòèêà ñî ñòîðîíû Ïóòèíà – íàìåê íà íîâóþ õîëîäíóþ âîéíó
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Åñëè â ýòè âûõîäíûå àìåðèêàíñêîé àäìèíèñòðàöèè, íåñìîòðÿ íà íûíåøíþþ ñèòóàöèþ â ìèðå, íå÷åì áûëî çàíÿòüñÿ, áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü óèêåíäà îíè ìîãëè ïðîâåñòè â äîãàäêàõ, ïî÷åìó Ìîñêâà ñíîâà îáúÿâèëà õîëîäíóþ âîéíó.

 ñóááîòó ïðåçèäåíò Ïóòèí âûñòóïèë ñ òàêîé àãðåññèâíîé êðèòèêîé â àäðåñ ÑØÀ è èõ åâðîïåéñêèõ ñîþçíèêîâ, êàêóþ ðîññèéñêèå ëèäåðû íå ïîçâîëÿëè ñåáå ñî âðåìåí õîëîäíîé âîéíû, çàêîí÷èâøåéñÿ 16 ëåò íàçàä.  âûñòóïëåíèè íà åæåãîäíîé Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, êîòîðîå íàïîìíèëî î âðåìåíàõ, êîãäà äâå ñâåðõäåðæàâû óãðîæàëè ñòåðåòü äðóã äðóãà è áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ìèðà ñ ëèöà çåìëè, Ïóòèí êðèòèêîâàë "íåëåãèòèìíóþ", ïî åãî ñëîâàì, âíåøíþþ ïîëèòèêó ÑØÀ ïîñëåäíèõ ëåò.

 ÷ðåçâû÷àéíî ãðóáûõ è íåäèïëîìàòè÷íûõ âûðàæåíèÿõ îí çàÿâèë, ÷òî ÑØÀ "ïåðåøàãíóëè ñâîè íàöèîíàëüíûå ãðàíèöû âî âñåõ ñôåðàõ", ñïðîâîöèðîâàëè íîâóþ ãîíêó ÿäåðíûõ âîîðóæåíèé è àãðåññèâíîé ïîëèòèêîé äåñòàáèëèçèðîâàëè ñèòóàöèþ íà Áëèæíåì Âîñòîêå.

Ýòî áûëà íå ïðîñòî óæå çíàêîìàÿ, ïóñòü è îòêðîâåííàÿ êðèòèêà ïðîñòóïêîâ àäìèíèñòðàöèè Áóøà. Âûñòóïàÿ ïåðåä ñëóøàòåëÿìè, â ÷èñëå êîòîðûõ áûëè åâðîïåéñêèå ëèäåðû è íåìåöêèé êàíöëåð Àíãåëà Ìåðêåëü, à òàêæå àìåðèêàíöû, Ïóòèí ïîäâåðã íàïàäêàì ÍÀÒÎ. Îí çàÿâèë, ÷òî âêëþ÷åíèå áûâøèõ ïðîñîâåòñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ â Ñåâåðîàòëàíòè÷åñêèé àëüÿíñ äåñòàáèëèçèðóåò ñèòóàöèþ â Åâðîïå è óãðîæàåò Ðîññèè. "Ïðîòèâ êîãî ýòî ðàñøèðåíèå?" – çàäàë îí âîïðîñ. Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ìåæäóíàðîäíîå ñîîáùåñòâî ñòàëêèâàëîñü ñ ïîäîáíîé àãðåññèåé ñî ñòîðîíû ìîñêîâñêîãî ëèäåðà â 1960 ãîäó, êîãäà Íèêèòà Õðóùåâ ñòó÷àë áîòèíêîì ïî ñòîëó íà çàñåäàíèè ÎÎÍ.

Ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ÑØÀ çàíÿëè îñòîðîæíóþ ïîçèöèþ è ïîñòàðàëèñü ïðåóìåíüøèòü çíà÷åíèå ïåðåìåí â òîíå ðîññèéñêîé ñòîðîíû. Ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû ÑØÀ Ðîáåðò Ãåéòñ, âûñòóïàÿ â÷åðà íà êîíôåðåíöèè, âåæëèâî ïîøóòèë íàä âûñòóïëåíèåì Ïóòèíà. Ïî åãî ñëîâàì, ýòà ðå÷ü "ïî÷òè âûçâàëà íîñòàëüãèþ ïî âðåìåíàì, êîãäà âñå áûëî ïðîùå. Ïî÷òè". Îí ñòàðàëñÿ ãîâîðèòü êàê ìîæíî ìÿã÷å, ïðèçíàâ òàêæå îøèáêè, äîïóùåííûå ÑØÀ â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû. Ïî åãî ñëîâàì, öåëîå ñòîëåòèå ÑØÀ ïîëüçîâàëèñü ðåïóòàöèåé ñèëû, êîòîðàÿ äåéñòâóåò íà áëàãî ìèðà. Îäíàêî îí ïðèçíàë, ÷òî â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ýòà ðåïóòàöèÿ áûëà îò÷àñòè óòåðÿíà è òåïåðü Ñîåäèíåííûì Øòàòàì íåîáõîäèìî ïîòðóäèòüñÿ, ÷òîáû åå âîññòàíîâèòü.

Ñåíàòîð îò Àðèçîíû Äæîí Ìàêêåéí, íàèáîëåå âåðîÿòíûé êàíäèäàò îò ðåñïóáëèêàíöåâ íà ïðåçèäåíòñêèõ âûáîðàõ ñëåäóþùåãî ãîäà, â ïðîøëîì áåñïîùàäíûé êðèòèê àâòîðèòàðíûõ óñòðåìëåíèé Ïóòèíà, â ýòîò ðàç áûë ñäåðæàí. Îí â öåëîì ñîãëàñèëñÿ ñî ñëîâàìè Ïóòèíà î òîì, ÷òî ñîâðåìåííûé ìèð – ýòî ìèð "îäíîïîëÿðíûé". Àìåðèêàíñêèå ïðåäñòàâèòåëè îòìåòèëè, ÷òî áîëüøå âñåãî ðàçîçëèëèñü èç-çà íîâîãî òîíà Ìîñêâû åâðîïåéöû, â òîì ÷èñëå íåêîòîðûå ïðèñóòñòâîâàâøèå íà êîíôåðåíöèè ëèäåðû âîñòî÷íîåâðîïåéñêèõ ñòðàí, íàõîäèâøèõñÿ ïðåæäå ïîä êàáëóêîì Ðîññèè.  ÷àñòíîì ïîðÿäêå äåëåãàòû íåìåöêîãî ïðàâèòåëüñòâà òàêæå âûðàçèëè ðåçêîå íåäîâîëüñòâî çàìå÷àíèÿìè ðîññèéñêîãî ëèäåðà.

Ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà â Ãåðìàíèè, ïðîèçíåñåííàÿ âñåãî ÷åðåç íåñêîëüêî ìèíóò ïîñëå òîãî, êàê êàíöëåð Ìåðêåëü òåïëî îöåíèëà äèïëîìàòè÷åñêèå îòíîøåíèÿ ìåæäó Åâðîïîé è ÑØÀ, ñòàëà íàðóøåíèåì îáû÷íûõ äèïëîìàòè÷åñêèõ ïðîòîêîëîâ. Îäíàêî îíà íå áûëà ïðîñòîé ãðóáîñòüþ. Ìþíõåíñêàÿ êîíôåðåíöèÿ, íàèáîëåå çíà÷èìûé åæåãîäíûé òðàíñàòëàíòè÷åñêèé ôîðóì ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, áåðåò ñâîå íà÷àëî èç ñàìûõ òåìíûõ äíåé õîëîäíîé âîéíû.

Êàíöëåð Ìåðêåëü æèëà â ñîâåòñêèå âðåìåíà â Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå – â 1980-å ãîäû îíà áûëà ãðàæäàíêîé Âîñòî÷íîé Ãåðìàíèè – è íå ïèòàåò èëëþçèé ïî ïîâîäó ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ âçãëÿäîâ áûâøåãî àãåíòà ÊÃÁ Ïóòèíà. Îäíàêî íè îíà, íè åå ñîâåòíèêè íå ìîãëè ïðåäñòàâèòü, ÷òî ðîññèéñêèé ëèäåð ñòîëü îòêðîâåííî ïîéäåò â íàñòóïëåíèå, â òî âðåìÿ êàê îíà ñòàðàåòñÿ óëó÷øèòü îòíîøåíèÿ ìåæäó åâðîïåéñêèìè ñòðàíàìè. Òîí Ïóòèíà âûçâàë ó íèõ íåäîóìåíèå. Ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ÑØÀ ïîëàãàþò, ÷òî ýòà ðå÷ü áûëà ïðåäíàçíà÷åíà ïîêàçàòü, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ âíîâü ñòàëà àãðåññèâíîé ìèðîâîé äåðæàâîé ïîñëå äîëãîãî ïåðèîäà óïàäêà è óíèæåíèé, ïåðåæèòûõ ïîñëå õîëîäíîé âîéíû. Óêðåïèâøèñü çà ñ÷åò âûñîêèõ öåí íà ýíåðãîíîñèòåëè â ïîñëåäíèå ïÿòü ëåò è ïðîäîëæàþùåéñÿ ýêîíîìè÷åñêîé ýêñïàíñèè, âèäÿ ïðèçíàêè òîãî, ÷òî ó ñòàðîãî ïðîòèâíèêà – Âàøèíãòîíà – ñåðüåçíûå ïðîáëåìû â ìèðå, ðîññèéñêîå ðóêîâîäñòâî, ïîõîæå, íàìåðåíî çàÿâèòü î ñâîåì âîçâðàùåíèè íà ìèðîâóþ àðåíó.

Îäíàêî âíåçàïíîå óõóäøåíèå àìåðèêàíî-ðîññèéñêèõ îòíîøåíèé, íåñìîòðÿ íà òåïëûå îòçûâû â ïðîøëîì î ðîññèéñêîì ëèäåðå ïðåçèäåíòà Áóøà, ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó, íå âñòðåâîæèëî àìåðèêàíöåâ.

Íà êîíôåðåíöèè â Ìþíõåíå â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû îñíîâíîå ìåñòî çàíèìàëè òðàíñàòëàíòè÷åñêèå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ: ÑØÀ ïîäâåðãàëèñü êðèòèêå ñî ñòîðîíû ñâîèõ äàâíèõ ñîþçíèêîâ èç-çà âîéíû â Èðàêå.  òî âðåìÿ ðîëü ãëàâíîãî çëîäåÿ íà êîíôåðåíöèè èãðàë áûâøèé ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû Äîíàëüä Ðàìñôåëüä.

 ýòîì ãîäó åâðîïåéöû óâèäåëè íîâîãî çëîäåÿ, è îäíîâðåìåííî ýòî íàïîìíèëî èì, ÷òî ïðè âñåõ ñâîèõ ïðîìàõàõ Àìåðèêà, â êîíöå êîíöîâ, íå ñàìàÿ îïàñíàÿ ñòðàíà íà ñâåòå.
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Ðîññèéñêèé ëèäåð ïîäòâåðæäàåò äàâíèå ðàñõîæäåíèÿ âíóòðè ÍÀÒÎ
Êâåíòèí Ïèë

Áûòü ìîæåò, êòî-òî ðàññêàçàë Ïóòèíó, ÷òî åæåãîäíàÿ êîíôåðåíöèÿ ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè â Ìþíõåíå – ýòî ìåñòî, ãäå åâðîïåéöû è àìåðèêàíöû âñåãäà ïóáëè÷íî ññîðÿòñÿ ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, êòî âèíîâàò â ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿõ âíóòðè Ñåâåðîàòëàíòè÷åñêîãî àëüÿíñà. À ìîæåò áûòü, îí ÷óâñòâîâàë ñåáÿ Äàíèèëîì â ëîãîâå ëüâîâ, è åìó áûëî âñå ðàâíî, îáèäåë ëè îí êîãî-íèáóäü.

×òî áû íè ïîäâèãëî åãî íà ýòî, ðîññèéñêèé ïðåçèäåíò âûçâàë îæåñòî÷åííûå ñïîðû ñâîèì ïåðâûì âèçèòîì íà Ìþíõåíñêóþ êîíôåðåíöèþ, ãäå âîò óæå 43 ãîäà ñîáèðàþòñÿ ñëèâêè àòëàíòè÷åñêîãî ðóêîâîäñòâà. Ñíà÷àëà îí îáðóãàë ÑØÀ çà òî, ÷òî îíè äåéñòâóþò áåç îãëÿäêè íà äðóãèõ è íå óâàæàþò ìåæäóíàðîäíîå ïðàâî. Çàòåì îí ïåðåêëþ÷èëñÿ íà åâðîïåéöåâ – îñîáåííî íà íåìåöêèõ õîçÿåâ êîíôåðåíöèè – êîòîðûõ ðàñêðèòèêîâàë çà òî, ÷òî ÍÀÒÎ ðàñøèðÿåòñÿ è äåéñòâóåò çà ïðåäåëàìè òðàäèöèîííûõ ãðàíèö.

Íî åñëè Ïóòèí è íàìåðåâàëñÿ óãëóáèòü ðàñêîë â ÍÀÒÎ, åãî àãðåññèâíîå âûñòóïëåíèå ïðèâåëî ê ïðîòèâîïîëîæíîìó ýôôåêòó. Âïåðâûå ïî÷òè çà äåñÿòèëåòèå âûñîêîïîñòàâëåííûå ïîëèòèêè, äèïëîìàòû è ìèíèñòðû îáîðîíû 26 ñòðàí ÍÀÒÎ ñóìåëè ñîìêíóòü ðÿäû ïåðåä ëèöîì îáùåãî âðàãà. Ôàêòè÷åñêè ïîÿâëåíèå ñòàðîãî äîáðîãî ðóññêîãî ïóãàëà, ñ êîòîðûì ìîæíî áîðîòüñÿ, ïðèíåñëî îáëåã÷åíèå.

Åñëè áû Ïóòèí ðàçûãðûâàë ñâîè êàðòû áîëåå õèòðî, îí ìîã áû äîñòè÷ü íóæíîãî ýôôåêòà. Ìíîãèå àñïåêòû, êîòîðûå îí êðèòèêîâàë, íå íðàâÿòñÿ è ñàìèì åâðîïåéöàì: íå â ïîñëåäíþþ î÷åðåäü ýòî êàñàåòñÿ íåñòàáèëüíîñòè îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ìèðà.

Áåññïîðíî, ìåæäó ÑØÀ è èõ áëèæàéøèìè ñîþçíèêàìè ñóùåñòâóþò ñåðüåçíûå ðàñõîæäåíèÿ. Îñîáåííî îñòðî îíè ïðîÿâèëèñü âî âðåìÿ âîéíû â Èðàêå, õîòÿ çàðîäèëèñü ãîðàçäî ðàíüøå. Àìåðèêàíöû è åâðîïåéöû ðàñõîäÿòñÿ ïî âîïðîñàì î òîì, çà÷åì íóæíî ÍÀÒÎ, ñëåäóåò ëè àëüÿíñó ñòàíîâèòüñÿ ãëîáàëüíûìè è êàê óêðåïëÿòü åãî âîåííóþ ìîùü.

 ýòîì ãîäó ãëàâíûì âîïðîñîì áûë Àôãàíèñòàí. Àìåðèêàíñêóþ äåëåãàöèþ âîçãëàâëÿëè íîâûé ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû Ðîáåðò Ãåéòñ è êàíäèäàò â ïðåçèäåíòû, ðåñïóáëèêàíñêèé ñåíàòîð Äæîí Ìàêêåéí, è, ïîêà íå âêëèíèëñÿ Ïóòèí, îíà áûëà íàìåðåíà ñîñðåäîòî÷èòüñÿ íà íåîáõîäèìîñòè óâåëè÷èòü îòïðàâêó åâðîïåéñêèõ ñîëäàò, ñíàðÿæåíèÿ è äåíåã â ýòó ìðà÷íóþ ñòðàíó. Ïî èõ ìíåíèþ, ýòî ïîìîæåò ÍÀÒÎ íå ïðîèãðàòü ñâîþ ñàìóþ øèðîêóþ ïî îõâàòó "ãîðÿ÷óþ" âîéíó.

Åñëè áû âûñòóïàë Äîíàëüä Ðàìñôåëüä, îí áû áûñòðî ðàçäåëàëñÿ ñ îïïîíåíòàìè. Îí áûë æóòêèì çàäèðîé, õîòÿ è îòëè÷àëñÿ ÷óâñòâîì þìîðà. Íî ñåíàòîð Ìàêêåéí è Ãåéòñ äåéñòâîâàëè ãîðàçäî áîëåå óâàæèòåëüíî. "Áóäóùåå íàøåãî àëüÿíñà ñåé÷àñ òåñíî ñâÿçàíî ñ èñõîäîì îïåðàöèè â Àôãàíèñòàíå, – çàÿâèë ñåíàòîð Ìàêêåéí. – Íàø óñïåõ èëè íåóäà÷à ïîâëèÿþò íå òîëüêî íà áåçîïàñíîñòü êàæäîé èç ñòðàí-ó÷àñòíèö, íî è íà àâòîðèòåò è ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ÍÀÒÎ".

Îí ïðèçâàë óâåëè÷èòü ÷èñëî åâðîïåéñêèõ âîåííîñëóæàùèõ â Àôãàíèñòàíå è îáðàòèëñÿ ê òàêèì ñòðàíàì, êàê Ãåðìàíèÿ, ñ ïðèçûâîì îòêàçàòüñÿ îò îãðàíè÷åíèé äëÿ ñâîèõ ñîëäàò íà ó÷àñòèå â îïåðàöèè.

Ãåéòñ ãîâîðèë î åâðîïåéöàõ âåæëèâî, íî ÿçâèòåëüíî. "Àëüÿíñ, â êîòîðûé âõîäÿò ñàìûå ðàçâèòûå ïðîìûøëåííûå ñòðàíû ìèðà, èìåþùèé áîëåå ÷åì äâóõìèëëèîííóþ àðìèþ – íå ñ÷èòàÿ àìåðèêàíñêèõ âîåííûõ – äîëæåí áûòü ñïîñîáåí ñîáðàòü äîñòàòî÷íî ñèë è ðåñóðñîâ äëÿ ïîáåäû â Àôãàíèñòàíå".

Âîçìîæíî, åâðîïåéöû (à â Ìþíõåíå ýòî ñëîâî â äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè îçíà÷àåò íåìöåâ) ïðîñòî çàíÿëè îáîðîíèòåëüíûå ïîçèöèè. Îäíàêî îíè ïîëàãàþò, ÷òî àìåðèêàíöû ñëèøêîì ìíîãî âðåìåíè ïîòðàòèëè íà ïðîñüáû îá îòïðàâêå ñîëäàò è ñëèøêîì ìàëî ãîâîðèëè î ðåêîíñòðóêöèè. Ýòà òåìà áûëî ïîïóëÿðíîé ñðåäè áîëüøèíñòâà íåìåöêèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé. Îíè ñ÷èòàþò, ÷òî óâåëè÷åíèå ÷èñëà ñîëäàò íå ïîìîæåò ðåøèòü ïðîáëåìó: îá ýòîì ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò ïðèìåð ðóññêèõ, ñèëû êîòîðûõ â Àôãàíèñòàíå áûëè âòðîå áîëüøå, ÷åì ó ÍÀÒÎ.

Íàðÿäó ñ ðàñõîæäåíèÿìè íàñ÷åò òàêòèêè â Àôãàíèñòàíå, ó ñòîðîí åñòü è áîëåå ãëóáîêèå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ ïî ïîâîäó ñàìîãî ÍÀÒÎ. Ãåéòñ íàñòàèâàåò, ÷òî ýòî âîåííûé àëüÿíñ, êîòîðûé äîëæåí ñîñðåäîòî÷èòüñÿ íà ñâîåé îñíîâíîé ðîëè, ïðè ýòîì óäåëÿÿ ãëîáàëüíîìó òåððîðèçìó íå ìåíüøå âíèìàíèÿ, ÷åì òðàäèöèîííîìó âîåííîìó äåëó.

Ìèíèñòð èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Ãåðìàíèè Ôðàíê-Âàëüòåð Øòàéíìàéåð íàïîìíèë äàâíèé ïîäõîä íåìöåâ: îáñóæäàòü ñëåäóåò áîëåå êðóïíûå âîïðîñû ãëîáàëüíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè, òàêèå êàê ýíåðãåòè÷åñêàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü è ãëîáàëüíîå ïîòåïëåíèå. Òàê ÷òî ÍÀÒÎ íóæíî çàíÿòüñÿ áîëåå øèðîêèì êðóãîì âîïðîñîâ.

Äàâíèå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ îñòàþòñÿ. Íî â ýòîì ãîäó íàñòðîåíèå êîíôåðåíöèè áûëî ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå. Ïî÷òè íèêòî íå óïîìÿíóë Èðàê. ×òî æå êàñàåòñÿ Ïóòèíà, òî îí ïîìîã óëó÷øèòü àòìîñôåðó, ïóñêàé åìó è äîñòàëèñü âñå ãàçåòíûå çàãîëîâêè.
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Íà ôîðóìå Ïóòèí ðàçíåñ àìåðèêàíñêóþ ïîëèòèêó

Òîìàñ Ðèêñ è Êðåã Óèòëîê

Áåëûé äîì íàçûâàåò îáâèíåíèÿ "íåïðàâîìåðíûìè"

Ðîññèéñêèé ïðåçèäåíò Âëàäèìèð Ïóòèí îçâó÷èë, âåðîÿòíî, ñàìóþ îñòðóþ êðèòèêó â àäðåñ Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ ñ ìîìåíòà ñâîåãî ïðèõîäà ê âëàñòè ñåìü ëåò íàçàä.  ñóááîòó îí çàÿâèë, ÷òî îäíîñòîðîííèé ìèëèòàðèñòñêèé ïîäõîä Âàøèíãòîíà ñäåëàë ìèð áîëåå îïàñíûì, ÷åì âî âðåìåíà õîëîäíîé âîéíû.

"Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû âî âñåõ îòíîøåíèÿõ ïåðåøëè ãðàíèöû, – ñêàçàë îí, îáðàùàÿñü ê åæåãîäíîé ìåæäóíàðîäíîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè â Ìþíõåíå, Ãåðìàíèÿ. – Íèêòî íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè, ïîòîìó ÷òî íèêòî íå ìîæåò ñïðÿòàòüñÿ çà ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ïðàâîì êàê çà êàìåííîé ñòåíîé".

Ïóòèí ðàñêðèòèêîâàë ðàñøèðåíèå ÍÀÒÎ, ñêàçàâ, ÷òî ðàçìåùåíèå àëüÿíñîì âîîðóæåííûõ ñèë íà ãðàíèöàõ Ðîññèè ñíèæàåò "óðîâåíü âçàèìíîãî äîâåðèÿ". Îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî æåëàíèå ÑØÀ ðàçìåñòèòü ïðîòèâîðàêåòíûå ñèñòåìû â Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå ïðèâåäåò ê äàëüíåéøåìó íàðóøåíèþ ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî áàëàíñà ñèë è ïðèäàñò ñìåëîñòè ÑØÀ â èõ âíåøíåïîëèòè÷åñêèõ ðåøåíèÿõ.

Ðîññèéñêèé ïðåçèäåíò âûñòóïèë â çàùèòó ðîññèéñêîé ïðîäàæè îðóæèÿ Èðàíó, îáúÿâèâ ýòî îäíèì èç ñïîñîáîâ ïîääåðæêè áëèæíåâîñòî÷íîé äåðæàâû, êîòîðàÿ èñïûòûâàåò äàâëåíèå ñî ñòîðîíû ÑØÀ è Åâðîïû ñ öåëüþ çàñòàâèòü åå îòêàçàòüñÿ îò âûïîëíåíèÿ ÿäåðíîé ïðîãðàììû. Ðîññèÿ ïîñòàâèëà Èðàíó ñèñòåìû ïðîòèâîâîçäóøíîé îáîðîíû, ïîñêîëüêó, êàê ñêàçàë Ïóòèí, "ìû íå õîòèì, ÷òîáû Èðàí ÷óâñòâîâàë ñåáÿ çàãíàííûì â óãîë".

Íà âñòðå÷å ïðèñóòñòâîâàëè äåñÿòêè ìèíèñòðîâ èíîñòðàííûõ äåë è ìèíèñòðîâ îáîðîíû, à òàêæå äðóãèå îôèöèàëüíûå ëèöà, â òîì ÷èñëå ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû ÑØÀ Ðîáåðò Ãåéòñ è äåëåãàöèÿ àìåðèêàíñêîãî êîíãðåññà. Èðàíñêèé ïåðåãîâîðùèê ïî ÿäåðíûì âîïðîñàì Àëè Ëàðèäæàíè òàêæå ïðèñóòñòâîâàë â çàëå; îí äîëæåí îáðàòèòüñÿ ê êîíôåðåíöèè â âîñêðåñåíüå, ïîñëå âûñòóïëåíèÿ Ãåéòñà.

"Óäèâëåíû è ðàçî÷àðîâàíû"

Íåñêîëüêî ïðèñóòñòâîâàâøèõ â çàëå àìåðèêàíñêèõ ïîëèòèêîâ ðåçêî îñóäèëè çàìå÷àíèÿ Ïóòèíà, êîòîðûå, ïî ñëîâàì ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî Ðîññèè, áûëè ïî îáûêíîâåíèþ áåçàïåëëÿöèîííûìè, íî îòëè÷àëèñü íåîáû÷íîé âðàæäåáíîñòüþ ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê Ñîåäèíåííûì Øòàòàì.

Áåëûé äîì òàêæå îòðåàãèðîâàë äîâîëüíî ðåçêî. "Ìû óäèâëåíû è ðàçî÷àðîâàíû âûñêàçûâàíèÿìè ïðåçèäåíòà Ïóòèíà, – ãîâîðèòñÿ â çàÿâëåíèè ïðåññ-ñåêðåòàðÿ Ãîðäîíà Äæîíäðîó. – Åãî îáâèíåíèÿ ÿâëÿþòñÿ íåïðàâîìåðíûìè. Ìû ðàññ÷èòûâàåì íà ïðîäîëæåíèå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà ñ Ðîññèåé â îáëàñòÿõ, âàæíûõ äëÿ âñåãî ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ñîîáùåñòâà, òàêèõ, êàê áîðüáà ñ òåððîðèçìîì, óìåíüøåíèå çîíû ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ îðóæèÿ ìàññîâîãî ïîðàæåíèÿ è ñíèæåíèå óãðîçû, ñîçäàâàåìîé ýòèì îðóæèåì".

Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî âûñøèå ÷èíîâíèêè àäìèíèñòðàöèè Áóøà âñòðå÷àëèñü â Âàøèíãòîíå ñ Ãàððè Êàñïàðîâûì – áûâøèì øàõìàòíûì ãðîññìåéñòåðîì, êîòîðûé ñòàë âåäóùåé ôèãóðîé â îòòåñíåííîé íà îáî÷èíó ðîññèéñêîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé îïïîçèöèè. Êàñïàðîâ ñêàçàë, ÷òî ïðåäîñòåðåã îôèöèàëüíûõ ëèö îò òîãî, ÷òîáû ó÷èòü Ðîññèþ äåìîêðàòèè, ïîñêîëüêó ýòî ìîæåò áûòü êîíòðïðîäóêòèâíî, íî ïîñîâåòîâàë èì íå äåëàòü âèä, ÷òî Ïóòèí ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíèì èç íèõ. "Âîò ïî÷åìó ÿ ãîâîðþ – íå âìåøèâàéòåñü, ïðîñòî íå ïîääåðæèâàéòå Ïóòèíà", – ñêàçàë Êàñïàðîâ.

Ïóòèí ïîæàëîâàëñÿ íà òî, ÷òî àìåðèêàíñêàÿ êðèòèêà åãî îòêàòà â îáëàñòè äåìîêðàòèè èñõîäèò èç ìåíòàëüíîñòè õîëîäíîé âîéíû, è ñêàçàë, ÷òî îí äàâíî óæå âûñòóïàë ïðîòèâ àìåðèêàíñêîé îïåðàöèè â Èðàêå.

Ðîññèéñêèé ïðåçèäåíò ïðèçâàë Çàïàä ïåðåñòàòü ïîäòàëêèâàòü Ðîññèþ ê áîëüøåé äåìîêðàòè÷íîñòè è áîëüøåìó óâàæåíèþ ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà. "Ðîññèþ, íàñ – ïîñòîÿííî ó÷àò äåìîêðàòèè. Íî òå, êòî íàñ ó÷àò, ñàìè ïî÷åìó-òî ó÷èòüñÿ íå î÷åíü õîòÿò", – ñêàçàë îí.

Ïóòèí çàâåðøèë ñâîþ êðèòèêó ìèðîóñòðîéñòâà, ñëîæèâøåãîñÿ ïîñëå õîëîäíîé âîéíû, òåì, ÷òî íàáðîñèëñÿ íà çàïàäíîå ïîíèìàíèå ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé. Áåçîïàñíîñòü è ïðîöâåòàíèå, ñêàçàë îí, äîëæíû áûòü "íå òîëüêî äëÿ èçáðàííûõ, à äëÿ âñåõ".

Âî âðåìÿ 32-ìèíóòíîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ Ïóòèíà íåñêîëüêî ÷ëåíîâ àìåðèêàíñêîé äåëåãàöèè õìóðèëèñü èëè îòâîäèëè ãëàçà. Ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûé ñîâåòîëîã Ãåéòñ ðàçãëÿäûâàë ñâîè çàïèñè. Êîãäà åãî ïîïðîñèëè ïðîêîììåíòèðîâàòü âûñòóïëåíèå, Ãåéòñ óëûáíóëñÿ è îòðèöàòåëüíî ïîêà÷àë ãîëîâîé.

Íèêàêèõ óñòóïîê

Ïîñëå âûñòóïëåíèÿ Ïóòèí îòâå÷àë íà âîïðîñû àóäèòîðèè, óòî÷íÿÿ íåêîòîðûå ïóíêòû, íî íå îòñòóïàÿ íè ïî îäíîìó èç íèõ. Îáúÿñíÿÿ, ïî÷åìó îí ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî ñåãîäíÿ ìèð îïàñíåå, ÷åì âî âðåìÿ õîëîäíîé âîéíû, îí ñêàçàë, ÷òî òîãäà "ýòî áûë õðóïêèé ìèð, êîíå÷íî, è ñòðàøíîâàòûé. Íî îí áûë äîñòàòî÷íî íàäåæíûì, êàê âûÿñíÿåòñÿ ñåãîäíÿ. Ñåãîäíÿ îí, îêàçûâàåòñÿ, è íå òàêîé óæ íàäåæíûé".

Ëèøü îäíàæäû îí ïðåäëîæèë ìèð, íàçâàë Áóøà ñâîèì äðóãîì. "Îí ïîðÿäî÷íûé ÷åëîâåê, ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî íà íåãî òàì âñåõ ñîáàê ñåãîäíÿ ìîãóò ïîâåñèòü", – ñêàçàë Ïóòèí.

Ïóòèí íàìåêíóë íà äâà ýïèçîäà çà ïîñëåäíèå äâà ãîäà, êîãäà Ðîññèÿ êîñâåííî ïåðåêðûâàëà ïîñòàâêè ýíåðãîíîñèòåëåé â Åâðîïó, íàñòàèâàÿ íà òîì, ÷òî äåéñòâèÿ Ðîññèè áûëè íàöåëåíû èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî íà ïîñòðîåíèå ïðîçðà÷íîé ðûíî÷íîé ñèñòåìû ýêñïîðòà ýíåðãîíîñèòåëåé, îñíîâàííîé íà äîëãîñðî÷íûõ êîíòðàêòàõ.

Íåêîòîðûå åâðîïåéñêèå äèïëîìàòû, ãîâîðÿ íà óñëîâèÿõ àíîíèìíîñòè, âûðàçèëè ìíåíèå, ÷òî åãî àòàêà íà Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðåâåíòèâíîé ìåðîé, ñ òåì ÷òîáû îòâåñòè îò Ðîññèè êðèòèêó, êîòîðàÿ íàçðåëà â åâðîïåéñêèõ ñòîëèöàõ. Ïîìèìî ïðîäîëæàþùåãîñÿ íàñòóïëåíèÿ íà ïðàâîçàùèòíûå ãðóïïû è ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ îïïîíåíòîâ, Ðîññèÿ âîññòàíîâèëà ïðîòèâ ñåáÿ íåêîòîðûå êðóãè â Åâðîïå òåì, ÷òî èñïîëüçîâàëà ýíåðãîíîñèòåëè â êà÷åñòâå èíñòðóìåíòà âíåøíåé ïîëèòèêè.

Ñåíàòîð Äæîçåô Ëèáåðìàí çàÿâèë, ÷òî çíà÷èòåëüíàÿ ÷àñòü âûñòóïëåíèÿ Ïóòèíà ïðåäñòàâëÿëà ñîáîé "ðèòîðèêó âðåìåí õîëîäíîé âîéíû" è ÷òî åãî çàìå÷àíèÿ ïî ïîâîäó Èðàíà "âîçìóòèòåëüíû" è "ïðîâîêàöèîííû".

Ñåíàòîð Ëèíäñè Ãðýì äîáàâèë: "Åñëè âû ðàññ÷èòûâàåòå, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ áóäåò êîíñòðóêòèâíî âåñòè ñåáÿ ïî èðàíñêîìó âîïðîñó, çàáóäüòå îá ýòîì. Ïóòèí îäíîé ñâîåé ðå÷üþ ñäåëàë áîëüøå äëÿ åäèíåíèÿ Åâðîïû è Àìåðèêè, ÷åì âñå, ÷òî ìû ìîãëè áû ñäåëàòü çà äåñÿòü ëåò", – ñ÷èòàåò Ãðýì, èìåÿ â âèäó òðåíèÿ â ñâÿçè ñ âîéíîé â Èðàêå.
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Åâðîïà è ÑØÀ ïî-ðàçíîìó ïîíèìàþò âûñòóïëåíèå Ïóòèíà

Äæóäè Äåìïñè

Êîãäà ìèíèñòð èíîñòðàííûõ äåë Ãåðìàíèè Ôðàíê-Âàëüòåð Øòàéíìàéåð ãîâîðèë â âîñêðåñåíüå î òðàíñàòëàíòè÷åñêèõ îòíîøåíèÿõ íà åæåãîäíîé Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, îí íå óïîìÿíóë âûñòóïëåíèå ïðåçèäåíòà Âëàäèìèðà Ïóòèíà äíåì ðàíüøå.

Ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà ñòàëà ïðåäìåòîì ðàçãîâîðîâ íà êîíôåðåíöèè, âûçâàâ â ïàìÿòè ó íåêîòîðûõ ðèòîðèêó õîëîäíîé âîéíû. Íî äðóãèì ïîêàçàëîñü, ÷òî Ïóòèí ãîâîðèò îò èìåíè óâåðåííîé, ñòàáèëüíîé è áîãàòîé Ðîññèè, óæå íå îáðåìåíåííîé áîëüøèìè äîëãàìè è õàîñîì ñåðåäèíû 1990-õ ãîäîâ.

Øòàéíìàéåð, êîòîðûé áûë â Ìîñêâå íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå, íå çàòðàãèâàë òåìó Ðîññèè, áîëåå òîãî – îí âíåñ ñâîé ñêðîìíûé âêëàä â ïîðêó ïîçèöèè ÑØÀ ïî èçìåíåíèþ êëèìàòà è çàäàë âîïðîñ, ñòîèò ëè ÍÀÒÎ çàíèìàòüñÿ ïðîáëåìàìè ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòè.

×òî æå êàñàåòñÿ àìåðèêàíñêèõ äåëåãàòîâ, ïî ìíåíèþ ìíîãèõ, ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà èñòî÷àëà íåïîêîëåáèìîå âûñîêîìåðèå.

Áðþñ Äæåêñîí, ïðåçèäåíò âàøèíãòîíñêîãî Ïðîåêòà ïåðåõîäíûõ äåìîêðàòèé, çàÿâèë, ÷òî Ïóòèí "óïóñòèë øàíñ ðàñøèðèòü äèàëîã".

"Ïóòèí âûøåë, îðóäèÿ ñâåðêàëè, – ñêàçàë Äæåêñîí. – Ïóòèí íàêèíóëñÿ íà ÑØÀ. Îí ñäåëàë äëÿ îáúåäèíåíèÿ Åâðîïû è ÑØÀ áîëüøå, ÷åì ìû ñäåëàëè êîãäà-ëèáî".

Áðåíò Ñêàóêðîôò, ïðåçèäåíò Scowcroft Group è ñîâåòíèê ïî íàöèîíàëüíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè òðåõ áûâøèõ ïðåçèäåíòîâ – Ðè÷àðäà Íèêñîíà, Äæåðàëüäà Ôîðäà è Äæîðäæà Áóøà-ñòàðøåãî – áûë îñòîðîæíåå.

"Åñëè âçÿòü îòäåëüíî ðèòîðèêó, ýòî áûëî îòâðàòèòåëüíîå âûñòóïëåíèå, – çàÿâèë Ñêàóêðîôò. – Íî âñïîìíèì, Ïóòèí ñêàçàë, ÷òî íå ñ÷èòàåò íóæíûì, ÷òîáû Èðàí ìîã îáîãàùàòü óðàí. À ýòî èìåííî òî, ÷åãî ìû ïûòàåìñÿ äîáèòüñÿ îò Èðàíà".

Ïóòèí, âïåðâûå ïîáûâàâøèé íà Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè, ñ ñàìîãî íà÷àëà ñêàçàë, ÷òî íå áóäåò äèïëîìàòè÷íûì. Îí ïîä÷åðêíóë, ÷òî ôîðìàò êîíôåðåíöèè ïîçâîëÿåò åìó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî îí äóìàåò î ìåæäóíàðîäíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè.

Çàòåì îí ðàçâèë ñâîþ êîíöåïöèþ î ìèðå, êðèòèêóÿ ÑØÀ çà âòîðæåíèå â Èðàê è îáâèíèâ Âàøèíãòîí â ïîïóñòèòåëüñòâå òåððîðèçìó è ïðîâåäåíèè îäíîñòîðîííåé ïîëèòèêè.

Îòâå÷àÿ íà âîïðîñû î íàñòóïëåíèè íà ïðàâà ÷åëîâåêà è îãðàíè÷åíèè äåÿòåëüíîñòè íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèé, à òàêæå, ïî÷åìó â Ðîññèè óáèâàþò ñòîëüêî æóðíàëèñòîâ, Ïóòèí âîñïðîèçâåë ñîâåòñêîå íåäîâîëüñòâî èíîñòðàííûì âìåøàòåëüñòâîì. (Ñ íà÷àëà 2006 ãîäà â Ðîññèè, ïî ñîîáùåíèÿì, áûëî óáèòî 13 æóðíàëèñòîâ, íè îäíî èç óáèéñòâ íå ðàñêðûòî.)

Ôðàíñóà Õåéñáóðã, ïðåçèäåíò ïàðèæñêîãî Ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî èíñòèòóòà ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèõ èññëåäîâàíèé, çàÿâèë, ÷òî ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà áûëà î òîì, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ ìñòèò ÑØÀ ïîñëå ðàñïàäà ÑÑÑÐ â 1991 ãîäó.

"Òîãäà ñòàòóñ Ðîññèè ñíèçèëñÿ, – ñêàçàë Õåéñáóðã. – Ðîññèÿ äîëæíà áûëà ìèðèòüñÿ ñ ðàñøèðåíèåì ÍÀÒÎ â ñòðàíû Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû. Ðîññèè êàçàëîñü, ÷òî ÑØÀ çëîóïîòðåáëÿþò ñâîèì ïîëîæåíèåì êàê ñàìîé ñèëüíîé äåðæàâû ïîñëå ðàñïàäà ÑÑÑÐ. Òåïåðü ìû âèäèì Ïóòèíà è Ðîññèþ, êîòîðóþ èíòåðåñóåò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ñèëà. Íèêàêèõ îáùèõ öåííîñòåé. Ãðóáàÿ ñèëà. Ðå÷ü èäåò î âîçâðàùåíèè ñòàòóñà".

Íåñêîëüêî íåìåöêèõ äåëåãàòîâ ðåçêî êðèòèêîâàëè ïðåçðåíèå Ïóòèíà ê ÑÌÈ è óáèéñòâà æóðíàëèñòîâ. Ïî ïîâîäó îêòÿáðüñêîãî óáèéñòâà ðîññèéñêîé æóðíàëèñòêè Àííû Ïîëèòêîâñêîé, çàíèìàâøåéñÿ ðàññëåäîâàíèÿìè, Ïóòèí çàÿâèë, ÷òî ìíîãî æóðíàëèñòîâ áûëî óáèòî â Èðàêå.

Íî äåëåãàòû âûñîêî îòîçâàëèñü î íåì ïî äðóãèì ïðè÷èíàì.

"Îí õîðîøî ñêàçàë îá Èðàíå, – çàÿâèë Ðóïåðò Ïîëåíö, ïðåäñåäàòåëü êîìèòåòà ïî ìåæäóíàðîäíûì äåëàì â áóíäåñòàãå, íèæíåé ïàëàòå ïàðëàìåíòà Ãåðìàíèè. – È ìíîãèå ñîãëàñèëèñü áû ñ Ïóòèíûì â åãî íåäîâîëüñòâå ïëàíàìè ÑØÀ ðàçâåðíóòü ùèò ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîé îáîðîíû â Ïîëüøå è ×åõèè".
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


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Ìàíôðåä Êâèðèíã

Íà ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè ðîññèéñêèé ïðåçèäåíò çàíÿë îáîðîíèòåëüíûé ðóáåæ â îòíîøåíèè ÑØÀ, âûêàçàâ òåì ñàìûì ñîêðîâåííûå ìûñëè ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèêîâ

Íà ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè áûë îäèí ìîìåíò âî âðåìÿ âûñòóïëåíèÿ Âëàäèìèðà Ïóòèíà, êîãäà ìîòèâû åãî îáëè÷èòåëüíûõ ðå÷åé â àäðåñ Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ ñòàëè ïî÷òè î÷åâèäíûìè. "Êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ?" – òèõî, ñ çàäóì÷èâûì âûðàæåíèåì ëèöà ñïðîñèë ïðåçèäåíò ïîñëå òîãî, êàê îáâèíèë Âàøèíãòîí â òîì, ÷òî òîò ïåðåøåë ãðàíèöû âî âñåõ îòíîøåíèÿõ, íàâÿçûâàÿ ïðè ýòîì ñâîþ ïðàâîâóþ ñèñòåìó äðóãèì ãîñóäàðñòâàì. Âîò Ïóòèíó ýòî ñîâñåì íå íðàâèòñÿ, è îí ïîâòîðèë ñâîé ðèòîðè÷åñêèé âîïðîñ: "Êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ?". Ìîãëî äàæå ïîêàçàòüñÿ, ÷òî îí æäåò îò çàëà ãðîìêîãî îòâåòà: "Íèêîìó!".

Òàêèìè î÷åâèäíûìè, êàê â ýòîò ìîìåíò, íàìåðåíèÿ Ïóòèíà íå áûëè, ïîæàëóé, çà âñå âðåìÿ åãî ïðåçèäåíòñòâà. Íàì íå íðàâèòñÿ òî, ÷åì âû òàì çàíèìàåòåñü, äàë îí ïîíÿòü àìåðèêàíöàì è ÍÀÒÎ. Ïóòèí, òèïè÷íûé ïðåäñòàâèòåëü ðóññêîãî íàðîäà, êîòîðîìó â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ïðèøëîñü ìíîãîå ïåðåæèòü, íî êîòîðûé ñêëîíåí ê ïðèíÿòèþ ôàòàëüíî íåâåðíûõ ðåøåíèé è ê æàëîñòè ê ñàìîìó ñåáå, çàõîòåë ðàññòàâèòü âåõè. "Õâàòèò!" – èìåííî òàê çâó÷èò ïîñëàíèå Ìîñêâû, êîòîðàÿ ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî åå ïðèòåñíÿþò ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí, è íå õî÷åò áîëüøå ýòîãî òåðïåòü. Ïóòèí íå õî÷åò íîâîé õîëîäíîé âîéíû, íî, ïî âñåé âèäèìîñòè, ãîòîâ ðèñêíóòü, åñëè ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ Ìîñêâû äðóãîãî ïóòè íå áóäåò. Îäíàêî âèíîâàòà áóäåò, êîíå÷íî, ïðîòèâíàÿ ñòîðîíà.

Ïðè ýòîì äëÿ ìèðîâîé ïîëèòèêè íå òàê âàæíî, ïðàâèëüíî ëè Ïóòèí îöåíèâàåò ñèòóàöèþ. Îùóùåíèå óãðîçû, èñõîäÿùåé èçâíå, ìîæåò ïåðåéòè â ðåàëüíîå ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû, êîãäà óãðîçó íà÷èíàþò îùóùàòü ïðàâèòåëüñòâà è (â ñëó÷àå Ðîññèè) òîò, êòî ñòîèò âî ãëàâå ãîñóäàðñòâà. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî áîëüøèíñòâî ðîññèÿí âèäÿò â ÑØÀ ðåàëüíîãî âðàãà. ÍÀÒÎ ÿâëÿåòñÿ äëÿ íèõ àãðåññèâíûì âîåííûì áëîêîì, êîòîðûé, âîïðåêè îáåùàíèÿì, âñå áëèæå ïîäáèðàåòñÿ ê ãðàíèöàì èõ ðîäèíû, óâëåêàåò íà ñâîþ îðáèòó áûâøèå ñîâåòñêèå ðåñïóáëèêè, "ïðîòèâîçàêîííî" äåëàÿ èõ ÷ëåíàìè ñâîåãî ïàêòà. Î÷åíü íåìíîãèå ðóññêèå ñ÷èòàþò, ÷òî ãðóçèíû è óêðàèíöû ïðèíèìàþò ðåøåíèå ïîâåðíóòüñÿ ëèöîì ê Çàïàäó ïîä âëèÿíèåì äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèõ ïðåîáðàçîâàíèé ó ñåáÿ â ñòðàíå.

Íåëüçÿ ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ñëîâî "äåìîêðàòèÿ" â Ðîññèè, ñ ó÷åòîì ïðèîáðåòåííîãî çà ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû îïûòà, âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ íåãàòèâíî, íî âñå ðàâíî îíî îñòàåòñÿ ÷óæèì äëÿ ðóññêèõ. 65% – êàê ïîêàçûâàþò ðåçóëüòàòû íåäàâíåãî îïðîñà – çàòðóäíèëèñü îïèñàòü òàêîå ïîíÿòèå, êàê äåìîêðàòèÿ. Åùå áîëüøå, à èìåííî 71%, âîîáùå íå ñ÷èòàþò ñåáÿ åâðîïåéöàìè, â òî âðåìÿ êàê ïî÷òè ïîëîâèíà âñåõ ðóññêèõ ñ÷èòàþò êîíòèíåíò, íà êîòîðîì ðàñïîëîæåíà çíà÷èòåëüíàÿ ÷àñòü èõ ðîäèíû, óãðîçîé ôèíàíñîâîé è ïðîìûøëåííîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè Ðîññèè.

Òàêîâ äóõîâíî-ýìîöèîíàëüíûé ôîí, ñ ó÷åòîì êîòîðîãî íóæíî ðàññìàòðèâàòü ïðèîáðåòàþùèå âñå áîëüøóþ îñòðîòó íàöèîíàëèñòè÷åñêèå âûñêàçûâàíèÿ ðîññèéñêèõ ïîëèòèêîâ, îí âëèÿåò è íà îáðàç ìûñëåé õîçÿèíà Êðåìëÿ. Ìû, õðàíèòåëè äîáðà è ìåæäóíàðîäíî-ïðàâîâûõ ïðèíöèïîâ, îäèí íà îäèí ïðîòèâîñòîèì ìèðîâîìó çëó – ïîäîáíîå óáåæäåíèå ðàçäåëÿåò è ðîññèéñêàÿ ýëèòà, è ïîäàâëÿþùåå áîëüøèíñòâî ãðàæäàí ñòðàíû.

Ðàçìåùåíèå Ñîåäèíåííûìè Øòàòàìè ñèñòåì ÏÂÎ íà òåððèòîðèè Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû ðàäè ñîçäàíèÿ çàùèòû îò èðàíñêèõ ðàêåò ðàñöåíèâàþòñÿ â îñíîâíîì êàê äåéñòâèÿ, íàïðàâëåíèå ïðîòèâ Ðîññèè. Äëÿ ðóññêèõ ýòî î÷åðåäíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî êîâàðñòâà âðàãîâ, ïîäîáðàâøèõñÿ ê ïîðîãó äîìà. Îáîðîíèòåëüíîå ìûøëåíèå ïðîäîëæàåò ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ: ïî ñëîâàì Ïóòèíà, íàäåÿòüñÿ Ðîññèÿ ìîæåò òîëüêî íà ñâîþ àðìèþ è ôëîò. Æåñòêîå âûñòóïëåíèå ðîññèéñêîãî ïðåçèäåíòà â Ìþíõåíå âî âðåìåííîì îòíîøåíèè áûëî ëîâêî ñîîòíåñåíî ñ âèçèòîì ê ïîòåíöèàëüíûì ñîþçíèêàì. Íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ïåðåä òóðíå â òðè àðàáñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâà â èíòåðâüþ òåëåêàíàëó "Àëü-Äæàçèðà" îí îáâèíèë ÑØÀ â òîì, ÷òî â ðåçóëüòàòå âòîðæåíèÿ àìåðèêàíöåâ â Èðàê ïîãèáëî áîëüøå ëþäåé, ÷åì ïðè äèêòàòîðå Ñàääàìå Õóñåéíå. Ïîäîáíûå àíòèàìåðèêàíñêèå ìîòèâû ïðèøëèñü ïî âêóñó â àðàáñêîì ìèðå, ñ êîòîðûì ó Ðîññèè ñêëàäûâàþòñÿ õîðîøèå, äàæå î÷åíü õîðîøèå îòíîøåíèÿ, êàê â ýòè äíè ïîäìåòèë øåô Êðåìëÿ.

Àðàáû ñ áëàãîñêëîííîñòüþ îòìåòèëè, ÷òî ïðàâîñëàâíûå õðèñòèàíå âî âðåìÿ ñêàíäàëà âîêðóã êàðèêàòóð íà ïðîðîêà Ìóõàììåäà â íà÷àëå 2006 ãîäà áûëè îäíîçíà÷íî íà ñòîðîíå èñëàìà. ×òî æå êàñàåòñÿ äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèõ ñâîáîä, â òîì ÷èñëå ñâîáîäû ñëîâà, äëÿ îáåèõ ðåëèãèé ýòî, ñàìîå áîëüøåå, äîáðîäåòåëè âòîðîãî ðàíãà. Îòòîðæåíèå äóõîâíîãî âëèÿíèÿ èçâíå â Ðîññèè ñòàíîâèòñÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè òàêèì æå ïðèîðèòåòîì, êàê è â èñëàìñêîì ìèðå. Èñëàì, êàê íåäàâíî çàÿâèë ïîä ãðîì àïëîäèñìåíòîâ ïàòðèàðõ Àëåêñèé II, áëèæå ñòîèò ê ïðàâîñëàâíîé öåðêâè, ÷åì êàòîëèöèçì.

Öåëüþ âèçèòîâ Ïóòèíà â Ñàóäîâñêóþ Àðàâèþ, Êàòàð è Èîðäàíèþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ áîëåå òåñíîå ñáëèæåíèå ñ àðàáñêèì ìèðîì, à òàêæå äåìîíñòðàöèÿ âîçâðàùåíèÿ Ìîñêâû íà ìåæäóíàðîäíóþ ïîëèòè÷åñêóþ àðåíó. Áëèæíèé Âîñòîê êàæåòñÿ ðîññèéñêîìó ïðåçèäåíòó ïîäõîäÿùåé äëÿ ýòîãî òåððèòîðèåé, êðîìå òîãî, îí òåïåðü òîæå îêóòàí øàðìîì ñûðüåâîãî áîãàòñòâà. Àëüÿíñ ñ íåôòå- è ãàçîäîáûâàþùèìè ðåæèìàìè øåéõîâ è êîðîëåé íà ôîíå ðàñòóùåãî äèñòàíöèðîâàíèÿ îò Çàïàäà ìîæåò ñåðüåçíî ïîâëèÿòü íà ðàññòàíîâêó ñèë â ìèðå. È âðÿä ëè Âëàäèìèð Ïóòèí íå çàäóìûâàëñÿ íàä ýòèì.
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
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: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Ïóòèí îáúÿâèë õîëîäíóþ âîéíó Àìåðèêå

Àííà Çàôåñîâà

Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû àãðåññèâíû, æàæäóò âëàñòè, ñ èõ àìáèöèÿìè ãëîáàëüíîãî ãîñïîäñòâà îíè ïîäâåðãàþò îïàñíîñòè âåñü ìèð. Íà ìåæäóíàðîäíîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè â Ìþíõåíå, Áàâàðèÿ, Âëàäèìèð Ïóòèí ïîäðîáíåéøèì îáðàçîì èçëîæèë ñàìûå æåñòêèå ñî âðåìåí ÑÑÑÐ îáâèíåíèÿ â àäðåñ Àìåðèêè. "×óòü ëè íå âñÿ ñèñòåìà ïðàâà îäíîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà, ïðåæäå âñåãî, êîíå÷íî, Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ, ïåðåøàãíóëà ñâîè íàöèîíàëüíûå ãðàíèöû âî âñåõ ñôåðàõ, – çàÿâèë ãëàâà Êðåìëÿ. – È ýòî, êîíå÷íî, êðàéíå îïàñíî. È âåäåò ê òîìó, ÷òî íèêòî óæå íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè".

Èðàê âïðÿìóþ íå óïîìèíàëñÿ, íî ïðîçâó÷àëè ñëîâà, ÷òî "îäíîñòîðîííèå, íåëåãèòèìíûå ÷àñòî äåéñòâèÿ, íå ðåøèëè íè îäíîé ïðîáëåìû. Áîëåå òîãî, îíè ñòàëè ãåíåðàòîðîì íîâûõ ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ òðàãåäèé è î÷àãîâ íàïðÿæåííîñòè. Ñóäèòå ñàìè: âîéí, ëîêàëüíûõ è ðåãèîíàëüíûõ êîíôëèêòîâ ìåíüøå íå ñòàëî". Àìåðèêà Áóøà õî÷åò èìåòü "îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð" è, ïî ñëîâàì Ïóòèíà, "êàê áû íè óêðàøàëè ýòîò òåðìèí, îí â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå îçíà÷àåò íà ïðàêòèêå òîëüêî îäíî: ýòî ìèð îäíîãî õîçÿèíà, îäíîãî ñóâåðåíà". Âå÷åðîì îí âîçîáíîâèë àòàêó â õîäå èíòåðâüþ òåëåêàíàëó Al Jazeera, çàÿâèâ, ÷òî àìåðèêàíñêîå âìåøàòåëüñòâî íàíåñëî Èðàêó áîëüøå óùåðáà, ÷åì äèêòàòóðà Ñàääàìà.

Ðå÷ü èäåò î áåñïðåöåäåíòíûõ ïî æåñòêîñòè çàÿâëåíèÿõ, äàæå ñ ó÷åòîì òîãî, ÷òî àíòèàìåðèêàíèçì óæå äàâíî ñòàë ÷àñòüþ ðîññèéñêîé ïîëèòèêè. È ñòàíîâèòñÿ ïîíÿòíûì, ïî÷åìó Ïóòèí ëè÷íî ðåøèë ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè, õîòÿ ðàíüøå îí âñåãäà íàïðàâëÿë íà ýòî ìåðîïðèÿòèå ìèíèñòðà îáîðîíû Ñåðãåÿ Èâàíîâà. Íåñìîòðÿ íà òî ÷òî îí çàÿâèë î äðóæåñêèõ îòíîøåíèÿ ñ Äæîðäæåì Áóøåì ("ß çíàþ, ÷òî ýòî ïîðÿäî÷íûé ÷åëîâåê, è ñ íèì ìîæíî ðàçãîâàðèâàòü è äîãîâàðèâàòüñÿ") è î òîì, ÷òî "Ðîññèÿ è ÑØÀ íèêîãäà íå áóäóò âðàãàìè", â÷åðà â Ìþíõåíå áûëî ïðîèçíåñåíî ñëîâî "êîíåö" â îòíîøåíèè íîðìàëèçàöèè ïîñëå çàâåðøåíèÿ õîëîäíîé âîéíû.

Ðîññèéñêèé ëèäåð íå æàëåë îáâèíåíèé è òÿæêèõ ïîäîçðåíèé â àäðåñ ÑØÀ, ñêàçàâ, íàïðèìåð: "Íàäååìñÿ, ÷òî è íàøè ïàðòíåðû áóäóò äåéñòâîâàòü òðàíñïàðåíòíî è íå áóäóò îòêëàäûâàòü íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé, íà "÷åðíûé äåíü" ëèøíþþ ïàðó ñîòåí ÿäåðíûõ áîåçàðÿäîâ" ïîñëå 31 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà, êîãäà Âàøèíãòîí è Ìîñêâà äîëæíû áóäóò ñîêðàòèòü ñâîè ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèå àðñåíàëû äî 1700-2000 åäèíèö.  îòíîøåíèè ðàñøèðåíèÿ ÍÀÒÎ îí çàìåòèë: "Ýòî ñåðüåçíî ïðîâîöèðóþùèé ôàêòîð, ñíèæàþùèé óðîâåíü âçàèìíîãî äîâåðèÿ", à ïî ïîâîäó àìåðèêàíñêîãî ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîãî ùèòà ñêàçàë: "ß íå õî÷ó íèêîãî ïîäîçðåâàòü â êàêîé-òî àãðåññèâíîñòè. Ó îäíîé èç ñòîðîí âîçíèêíåò îùóùåíèå ïîëíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè, à çíà÷èò, ýòî ðàçâÿçûâàåò åé ðóêè íå òîëüêî â ëîêàëüíûõ, à, âîçìîæíî, óæå è â ãëîáàëüíûõ êîíôëèêòàõ".

Îòñþäà è íåîáõîäèìîñòü "îòâåòà" Ðîññèè. È Ïóòèí îòâåòèë îòêàçîì íà âñå. Ïî ïîâîäó äåìîêðàòèè: "Íàñ ïîñòîÿííî ó÷àò äåìîêðàòèè. Íî òå, êòî íàñ ó÷àò, ñàìè ïî÷åìó-òî ó÷èòüñÿ íå î÷åíü õîòÿò". Ïîâåäåíèå àìåðèêàíöåâ "íå èìååò íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ äåìîêðàòèåé". Ïî ïîâîäó ñâîáîäû ïðåññû: " Èðàêå áîëüøå âñåãî ïîãèáëî æóðíàëèñòîâ". Ïî Êîñîâî, ãäå "íåò", ñêàçàííîå â÷åðà Ïóòèíûì íåêîòîðûì ðåøåíèÿì, êîòîðûå íå óäîâëåòâîðÿþò ñåðáîâ, çàáëîêèðîâàëî âåñü ïðîöåññ. Ïî Èðàíó, êîãäà Ïóòèí îáúÿñíèë, ïî÷åìó àÿòîëëû íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ àòîìíîé óãðîçîé äëÿ Åâðîïû, ñêàçàâ, ÷òî ïîâåäåíèå âñåìîãóùèõ Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ ëèøü ïðîâîöèðóåò ãîíêó âîîðóæåíèé è âûçûâàåò æåëàíèå ó íåêîòîðûõ ñòðàí îáëàäàòü ÿäåðíûì îðóæèåì (âìåñòå ñ òåì îí âûðàçèë "èñêðåííå íåïîíèìàíèå", ïî÷åìó Òåãåðàí îòêàçûâàåòñÿ îò ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà ñ ìèðîâûì ñîîáùåñòâîì).

Ïóòèí äîïóñòèë òàêæå âûïàä â îòíîøåíèè ìèíèñòðà îáîðîíû Èòàëèè Àðòóðî Ïàðèçè: "ß èëè íå ïîíÿë òî, ÷òî áûëî ñêàçàíî ñîâñåì íåäàâíî íàøèì êîëëåãîé, ìèíèñòðîì îáîðîíû Èòàëèè, ëèáî îí âûðàçèëñÿ íåòî÷íî. ß, âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, óñëûøàë, ÷òî ëåãèòèìíûì ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ òîëüêî â òîì ñëó÷àå, åñëè ðåøåíèå ïðèíÿòî â ÍÀÒÎ èëè â Åâðîñîþçå, èëè â ÎÎÍ. Åñëè îí äåéñòâèòåëüíî òàê ñ÷èòàåò, òî ó íàñ ñ íèì ðàçíûå òî÷êè çðåíèÿ. Èëè ÿ îñëûøàëñÿ. Ëåãèòèìíûì ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû òîëüêî, åñëè ðåøåíèå ïðèíÿòî íà îñíîâå è â ðàìêàõ ÎÎÍ". Ïàðèçè áûë âûíóæäåí îòâåòèòü: "Ìû ñîãëàñíû. Ýòî áûëî íåäîðàçóìåíèå, êîòîðîå ìû ñðàçó æå âûÿñíèëè".

Ãåíåðàëüíûé ñåêðåòàðü ÍÀÒÎ ßàï äå Õîîï Ñõåôôåð çàÿâèë ïî ïîâîäó âûñòóïëåíèÿ ðóññêîãî öàðÿ: " ß íå áóäó ñêðûâàòü ñâîå ðàçî÷àðîâàíèå. Ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà íè÷åì íå ïîìîãëà äåëó". Âå÷åðîì ïîñòóïèë è îòâåò Áåëîãî äîìà: "Ìû óäèâëåíû è ðàçî÷àðîâàíû âûñêàçûâàíèÿìè ïðåçèäåíòà Ïóòèíà. Åãî îáâèíåíèÿ íåâåðíû", – çàÿâèë ïðåññ-ñåêðåòàðü Áåëîãî äîìà ïî âîïðîñàì íàöèîíàëüíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè Ãîðäîí Äæîíäðîó.
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Ãåéòñ âîçðàæàåò ïðîòèâ êðèòèêè Ïóòèíà â àäðåñ ÑØÀ
Òîì Øýíêåð

Ìþíõåí, 11 ôåâðàëÿ. Ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû ÑØÀ Ðîáåðò Ãåéòñ, âîçðàæàÿ ïðîòèâ ïðîñòðàííûõ êðèòè÷åñêèõ âûñêàçûâàíèé ïðåçèäåíòà Ðîññèè â àäðåñ ÑØÀ, ñêàçàë â âîñêðåñåíüå íà åâðîïåéñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè: "Îäíîé õîëîäíîé âîéíû áûëî âïîëíå äîñòàòî÷íî".

Ãëàâû ïðàâèòåëüñòâ, çàêîíîäàòåëè è ïðåäñòàâèòåëè àðìèé, ñîáðàâøèåñÿ çäåñü, åùå äîëãî îáñóæäàëè ìîòèâàöèþ Ïóòèíà, âûñòóïèâøåãî ñ äëèííûì ñïèñêîì ïðåòåíçèé â îòíîøåíèè äîìèíèðóþùåãî ïîëîæåíèÿ ÑØÀ â ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ, íî Ãåéòñ âûáðàë äëÿ íàèáîëåå ïîëíîãî îòâåòà Âàøèíãòîíà ÿçûê "áàðõàòíîé ïåð÷àòêè", à íå "æåëåçíîé ðóêè". Ïîäîáíî Ïóòèíó, îí íåîäíîêðàòíî óïîìèíàë õîëîäíóþ âîéíó.

"Êàê îäíîãî èç ó÷àñòíèêîâ "õîëîäíîé âîéíû", îäíà èç â÷åðàøíèõ ðå÷åé ïî÷òè íàïîëíèëà ìåíÿ íîñòàëüãèåé ïî ìåíåå ñëîæíûì âðåìåíàì, – ñêàçàë îí. – Ïî÷òè".

Ãåéòñ, áûâøèé ãëàâà Öåíòðàëüíîãî ðàçâåäûâàòåëüíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ, ïðèçâàííûé ñ àêàäåìè÷åñêîãî ïîñòà îáðàòíî, íà ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé ïîñò ìèíèñòðà îáîðîíû, íàïîìíèë ó÷àñòíèêàì 43-é Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè ïî ïîëèòèêå áåçîïàñíîñòè, ÷òî è îí, è Ïóòèí íà ïðîòÿæåíèè áîëüøåé ÷àñòè êàðüåðû áûëè àãåíòàìè ðàçâåäîê ñâîèõ ïðàâèòåëüñòâ.

"È, íàâåðíîå, ó áûâàëûõ øïèîíîâ åñòü ïðèâû÷êà ðóáèòü ñïëå÷à, – ñêàçàë Ãåéòñ. – Íî ÿ ïðîøåë ïåðåïîäãîòîâêó â âèäå ÷åòûðåõëåòíåé ðàáîòû â äîëæíîñòè ïðåçèäåíòà óíèâåðñèòåòà, ãäå ìíå ïðèøëîñü èìåòü äåëî ñ ïðåïîäàâàòåëüñêèì ñîñòàâîì". Åãî ñëîâà âûçâàëè ñìåõ è àïëîäèñìåíòû.

Íàèáîëåå ðåçêèé åãî îòâåò Ïóòèíó áûë îáëå÷åí â ìÿãêóþ ôîðìó. "Ðîññèÿ – íàø ïàðòíåð âî ìíîãèõ íà÷èíàíèÿõ, – ñêàçàë Ãåéòñ, – íî ó íàñ òîæå âûçûâàþò óäèâëåíèå íåêîòîðûå ïîëèòè÷åñêèå ðåøåíèÿ Ðîññèè, êîòîðûå ïðîòèâîðå÷àò èíòåðåñàì ìåæäóíàðîäíîé ñòàáèëüíîñòè, â ÷àñòíîñòè ïåðåäà÷à îðóæèÿ è èñïîëüçîâàíèå ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèõ ðåñóðñîâ â êà÷åñòâå èíñòðóìåíòîâ ïîëèòè÷åñêîãî äàâëåíèÿ".

 ýòîì îïðîâåðæåíèè è â áîëåå ïðîñòðàííîé ðå÷è î òîì, ÷òî åâðîïåéñêèå ñîþçíèêè ÑØÀ äîëæíû ïîìî÷ü â âîññòàíîâëåíèè Àôãàíèñòàíà è â ïðîäîëæåíèè áîðüáû ñ òåððîðèçìîì, Ãåéòñ òîëüêî îäíàæäû óïîìÿíóë èìÿ Ïóòèíà – êîãäà ñêàçàë, ÷òî ïðèíÿë ïðèãëàøåíèå Ïóòèíà ïîñåòèòü Ìîñêâó.

 ñóááîòó ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû Ðîññèè Ñåðãåé Èâàíîâ, äîâåðåííîå ëèöî ðîññèéñêîãî ïðåçèäåíòà, îòðèöàë, ÷òî ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà íîñèëà êîíôðîíòàöèîííûé õàðàêòåð. "Ìû íå çàèíòåðåñîâàíû â òîì, ÷òîáû íàâÿçûâàòü ðîññèéñêîå ìíåíèå êîìó áû òî íè áûëî, ìû ïðîñòî ãîâîðèì òî, ÷òî ìû äóìàåì", – ñêàçàë Èâàíîâ. Îäíàêî îí çàÿâèë, ÷òî åãî ïðàâèòåëüñòâî íå áóäåò ïîääåðæèâàòü ìåæäóíàðîäíûå ìåðû, ïðåäïðèíèìàåìûå áåç ñîâåùàíèÿ ñ Ðîññèåé è áåç åå ñîãëàñèÿ, íå ãîâîðÿ óæ î òåõ, êîòîðûå "íàâÿçûâàþòñÿ Ðîññèè".

Íàä âûñòóïëåíèåì Ãåéòñà âèòàëà òåíü åãî ïðåäøåñòâåííèêà Äîíàëüäà Ðàìñôåëüäà, êîòîðûé âî âðåìÿ ñâîåãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ â äîëæíîñòè ìèíèñòðà îáîðîíû ÑØÀ ìîã îäíîâðåìåííî î÷àðîâûâàòü è îñêîðáëÿòü åâðîïåéñêóþ àóäèòîðèþ. Ðàìñôåëüä â ñâîå âðåìÿ ïðîèçíåñ íåñêîëüêî ðå÷åé, â òîì ÷èñëå íà Ìþíõåíñêîé êîíôåðåíöèè.

Ãåéòñ ïîçèöèîíèðóåò ñåáÿ êàê ãåîïîëèòè÷åñêîãî ðåàëèñòà. Îí âûçâàë ïîíèìàþùèé ñìåõ â çàëå, êîãäà ñîñðåäîòî÷èëñÿ â ñâîåé ðå÷è íà çàÿâëåíèè Ïóòèíà î òîì, ÷òî Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû è èõ ñîþçíèêè ïûòàþòñÿ âûçâàòü ðàñêîë â Åâðîïå.

"Âñå ýòè õàðàêòåðèñòèêè óøëè â ïðîøëîå, – ñêàçàë Ãåéòñ. – Ñâîáîäíûé ìèð ïðîòèâ ìèðà çà æåëåçíûì çàíàâåñîì. Ñåâåð ïðîòèâ Þãà. Âîñòîê ïðîòèâ Çàïàäà. ß ñëûøàë äàæå, êàê íåêîòîðûå ãîâîðÿò î ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèè ìåæäó "ñòàðîé" è "íîâîé" Åâðîïîé".

Ïîñëåäíåå îòíîñèëîñü ê âûñêàçûâàíèþ Ðàìñôåëüäà â ÿíâàðå 2003 ãîäà, ïðîòèâîïîñòàâèâøåãî Ãåðìàíèþ è Ôðàíöèþ, êîòîðûå âîçðàæàëè ïðîòèâ ïëàíà âòîðæåíèÿ ÑØÀ â Èðàê, ñîñåäíèì ãîñóäàðñòâàì, îêàçàâøèì ïîääåðæêó ýòîìó ïëàíó, õîòÿ íå âñå èç íèõ ÷ëåíû ÍÀÒÎ.

Ðàññóæäàÿ î ïðè÷èíàõ óñïåõà ÍÀÒÎ â äëèòåëüíîì ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèè ñîâåòñêîé óãðîçå, îí ñêàçàë: "Äîâîëüíî î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî òîòàëèòàðèçì áûë ïîâåðæåí â òàêîé æå ñòåïåíè èäåÿìè, êîòîðûå ïðîïàãàíäèðîâàë è ïðîïàãàíäèðóåò Çàïàä, â êàêîé è ìåæêîíòèíåíòàëüíûìè áàëëèñòè÷åñêèìè ðàêåòàìè, òàíêàìè è áîåâûìè êîðàáëÿìè, ðàçìåùåííûìè Çàïàäîì". Íàèáîëåå ýôôåêòèâíûì îðóæèåì àëüÿíñà, ñêàçàë îí, áûëà "îáùàÿ âåðà â ïîëèòè÷åñêèå è ýêîíîìè÷åñêèå ñâîáîäû, ðåëèãèîçíóþ òîëåðàíòíîñòè, ïðàâà ÷åëîâåêà, ïðåäñòàâèòåëüíîå ïðàâèòåëüñòâî è âëàñòü çàêîíà".

"Ýòè öåííîñòè ñîõðàíÿëè íàøå åäèíñòâî è âäîõíîâëÿëè ëþäåé, íàõîäÿùèõñÿ ïî äðóãóþ ñòîðîíó çàíàâåñà", – äîáàâèë îí.

Ïåðåéäÿ ê òåìå íûíåøíèõ óãðîç è ïðîáëåì, îí ïðèçâàë ÷ëåíîâ ÍÀÒÎ ïîääåðæàòü âñåîáúåìëþùóþ ñòðàòåãèþ ïî ñòàáèëèçàöèè Àôãàíèñòàíà, "ñî÷åòàþùóþ ìîùíûå âîåííûå óñèëèÿ ñ ýôôåêòèâíîé ïîääåðæêîé ãîñóäàðñòâåííîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ, ýêîíîìè÷åñêîãî ðàçâèòèÿ è áîðüáû ñ íàðêîòèêàìè".

Îí òàêæå ïðèçâàë ñîþçíèêîâ ÍÀÒÎ óâåëè÷èòü âîåííûå ðàñõîäû, ÷òîáû äîñòè÷ü óñòàíîâëåííîãî àëüÿíñîì ïîðîãà â 2% ÂÂÏ. Ñåé÷àñ òîëüêî 6 èç 26 ÷ëåíîâ ÍÀÒÎ âûïîëíÿþò ýòî òðåáîâàíèå.

Ãåéòñ êîðîòêî êîñíóëñÿ âîéíû â Èðàêå, ïîâòîðèâ çàÿâëåíèå ïðåçèäåíòà Áóøà, ÷òî Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû è èõ ïàðòíåðû äîëæíû îäåðæàòü òàì âåðõ. Åñëè õàîñ ïðèâåäåò ê ðàñêîëó Èðàêà, ïðåäîñòåðåã Ãåéòñ, "âñå ÷ëåíû àëüÿíñà îùóòÿò ïîñëåäñòâèÿ "ðåãèîíàëüíûõ âîëíåíèé è òåððîðèçìà".

Îí ïðèçíàë, ÷òî ìåæäóíàðîäíîìó ïîëîæåíèþ Àìåðèêè áûë íàíåñåí óùåðá íåêîòîðûìè åå äåéñòâèÿìè â ðàìêàõ áîðüáû ñ òåððîðèçìîì, â îñîáåííîñòè ýòî êàñàåòñÿ ñîäåðæàíèÿ çàêëþ÷åííûõ áåç äîëæíûõ ñóäåáíûõ ïðîöåäóð íà àìåðèêàíñêîé âîåííîé áàçå íà Êóáå.

"Ó ìåíÿ íå âûçûâàåò ñîìíåíèé, ÷òî Ãóàíòàíàìî è íåêîòîðûå ñëó÷àè äóðíîãî îáðàùåíèÿ ñ çàêëþ÷åííûìè â Èðàêå íåãàòèâíî ñêàçàëèñü íà ðåïóòàöèè Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ, – ñêàçàë Ãåéòñ. – Ïðàâäà è òî, îäíàêî, ÷òî â Ãóàíòàíàìî ñîäåðæàòñÿ íàñòîÿùèå òåððîðèñòû".

Ïîâòîðèâ ñëîâà ðÿäà ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé ÑØÀ, Ãåéòñ ïîä÷åðêíóë, ÷òî áîëüøèíñòâî ÷ëåíîâ àäìèíèñòðàöèè Áóøà âûñòóïàþò çà çàêðûòèå ýòîãî öåíòðà ñîäåðæàíèÿ çàêëþ÷åííûõ, è ïîîáåùàë, ÷òî ïðîöåññû íàä çàêëþ÷åííûìè áóäóò ïðîâåäåíû çàêîííûì è ïðîçðà÷íûì îáðàçîì.
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À âîò è ñàìà ðå÷ü

http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/rede.php?sprache=en&id=179&
Speech at the 43rd Munich Conference on Security Policy
02/10/2007

(The speech was held in Russian. Find the English translation below.)

Thank you very much dear Madam Federal Chancellor, Mr Teltschik, ladies and gentlemen!

I am truly grateful to be invited to such a representative conference that has assembled politicians, military officials, entrepreneurs and experts from more than 40 nations.

This conference’s structure allows me to avoid excessive politeness and the need to speak in roundabout, pleasant but empty diplomatic terms. This conference’s format will allow me to say what I really think about international security problems. And if my comments seem unduly polemical, pointed or inexact to our colleagues, then I would ask you not to get angry with me. After all, this is only a conference. And I hope that after the first two or three minutes of my speech Mr Teltschik will not turn on the red light over there.

Therefore. It is well known that international security comprises much more than issues relating to military and political stability. It involves the stability of the global economy, overcoming poverty, economic security and developing a dialogue between civilisations.

This universal, indivisible character of security is expressed as the basic principle that “security for one is security for all”. As Franklin D. Roosevelt said during the first few days that the Second World War was breaking out: “When peace has been broken anywhere, the peace of all countries everywhere is in danger.”

These words remain topical today. Incidentally, the theme of our conference – global crises, global responsibility – exemplifies this.

Only two decades ago the world was ideologically and economically divided and it was the huge strategic potential of two superpowers that ensured global security.

This global stand-off pushed the sharpest economic and social problems to the margins of the international community’s and the world’s agenda. And, just like any war, the Cold War left us with live ammunition, figuratively speaking. I am referring to ideological stereotypes, double standards and other typical aspects of Cold War bloc thinking.

The unipolar world that had been proposed after the Cold War did not take place either.

The history of humanity certainly has gone through unipolar periods and seen aspirations to world supremacy. And what hasn’t happened in world history?

However, what is a unipolar world? However one might embellish this term, at the end of the day it refers to one type of situation, namely one centre of authority, one centre of force, one centre of decision-making.

It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.

And this certainly has nothing in common with democracy. Because, as you know, democracy is the power of the majority in light of the interests and opinions of the minority.

Incidentally, Russia – we – are constantly being taught about democracy. But for some reason those who teach us do not want to learn themselves.

I consider that the unipolar model is not only unacceptable but also impossible in today’s world. And this is not only because if there was individual leadership in today’s – and precisely in today’s – world, then the military, political and economic resources would not suffice. What is even more important is that the model itself is flawed because at its basis there is and can be no moral foundations for modern civilisation.

Along with this, what is happening in today’s world – and we just started to discuss this – is a tentative to introduce precisely this concept into international affairs, the concept of a unipolar world.

And with which results?

Unilateral and frequently illegitimate actions have not resolved any problems. Moreover, they have caused new human tragedies and created new centres of tension. Judge for yourselves: wars as well as local and regional conflicts have not diminished. Mr Teltschik mentioned this very gently. And no less people perish in these conflicts – even more are dying than before. Significantly more, significantly more!

Today we are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force – military force – in international relations, force that is plunging the world into an abyss of permanent conflicts. As a result we do not have sufficient strength to find a comprehensive solution to any one of these conflicts. Finding a political settlement also becomes impossible.

We are seeing a greater and greater disdain for the basic principles of international law. And independent legal norms are, as a matter of fact, coming increasingly closer to one state’s legal system. One state and, of course, first and foremost the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way. This is visible in the economic, political, cultural and educational policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?

In international relations we increasingly see the desire to resolve a given question according to so-called issues of political expediency, based on the current political climate.

And of course this is extremely dangerous. It results in the fact that no one feels safe. I want to emphasise this – no one feels safe! Because no one can feel that international law is like a stone wall that will protect them. Of course such a policy stimulates an arms race.

The force’s dominance inevitably encourages a number of countries to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Moreover, significantly new threats – though they were also well-known before – have appeared, and today threats such as terrorism have taken on a global character.

I am convinced that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security.

And we must proceed by searching for a reasonable balance between the interests of all participants in the international dialogue. Especially since the international landscape is so varied and changes so quickly – changes in light of the dynamic development in a whole number of countries and regions.

Madam Federal Chancellor already mentioned this. The combined GDP measured in purchasing power parity of countries such as India and China is already greater than that of the United States. And a similar calculation with the GDP of the BRIC countries – Brazil, Russia, India and China – surpasses the cumulative GDP of the EU. And according to experts this gap will only increase in the future.

There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centres of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity.

In connection with this the role of multilateral diplomacy is significantly increasing. The need for principles such as openness, transparency and predictability in politics is uncontested and the use of force should be a really exceptional measure, comparable to using the death penalty in the judicial systems of certain states.

However, today we are witnessing the opposite tendency, namely a situation in which countries that forbid the death penalty even for murderers and other, dangerous criminals are airily participating in military operations that are difficult to consider legitimate. And as a matter of fact, these conflicts are killing people – hundreds and thousands of civilians!

But at the same time the question arises of whether we should be indifferent and aloof to various internal conflicts inside countries, to authoritarian regimes, to tyrants, and to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction? As a matter of fact, this was also at the centre of the question that our dear colleague Mr Lieberman asked the Federal Chancellor. If I correctly understood your question (addressing Mr Lieberman), then of course it is a serious one! Can we be indifferent observers in view of what is happening? I will try to answer your question as well: of course not.

But do we have the means to counter these threats? Certainly we do. It is sufficient to look at recent history. Did not our country have a peaceful transition to democracy? Indeed, we witnessed a peaceful transformation of the Soviet regime – a peaceful transformation! And what a regime! With what a number of weapons, including nuclear weapons! Why should we start bombing and shooting now at every available opportunity? Is it the case when without the threat of mutual destruction we do not have enough political culture, respect for democratic values and for the law?

I am convinced that the only mechanism that can make decisions about using military force as a last resort is the Charter of the United Nations. And in connection with this, either I did not understand what our colleague, the Italian Defence Minister, just said or what he said was inexact. In any case, I understood that the use of force can only be legitimate when the decision is taken by NATO, the EU, or the UN. If he really does think so, then we have different points of view. Or I didn’t hear correctly. The use of force can only be considered legitimate if the decision is sanctioned by the UN. And we do not need to substitute NATO or the EU for the UN. When the UN will truly unite the forces of the international community and can really react to events in various countries, when we will leave behind this disdain for international law, then the situation will be able to change. Otherwise the situation will simply result in a dead end, and the number of serious mistakes will be multiplied. Along with this, it is necessary to make sure that international law have a universal character both in the conception and application of its norms.

And one must not forget that democratic political actions necessarily go along with discussion and a laborious decision-making process.

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

The potential danger of the destabilisation of international relations is connected with obvious stagnation in the disarmament issue.

Russia supports the renewal of dialogue on this important question.

It is important to conserve the international legal framework relating to weapons destruction and therefore ensure continuity in the process of reducing nuclear weapons.

Together with the United States of America we agreed to reduce our nuclear strategic missile capabilities to up to 1700-2000 nuclear warheads by 31 December 2012. Russia intends to strictly fulfil the obligations it has taken on. We hope that our partners will also act in a transparent way and will refrain from laying aside a couple of hundred superfluous nuclear warheads for a rainy day. And if today the new American Defence Minister declares that the United States will not hide these superfluous weapons in warehouse or, as one might say, under a pillow or under the blanket, then I suggest that we all rise and greet this declaration standing. It would be a very important declaration.

Russia strictly adheres to and intends to further adhere to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as well as the multilateral supervision regime for missile technologies. The principles incorporated in these documents are universal ones.

In connection with this I would like to recall that in the 1980s the USSR and the United States signed an agreement on destroying a whole range of small- and medium-range missiles but these documents do not have a universal character.

Today many other countries have these missiles, including the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Republic of Korea, India, Iran, Pakistan and Israel. Many countries are working on these systems and plan to incorporate them as part of their weapons arsenals. And only the United States and Russia bear the responsibility to not create such weapons systems.

It is obvious that in these conditions we must think about ensuring our own security.

At the same time, it is impossible to sanction the appearance of new, destabilising high-tech weapons. Needless to say it refers to measures to prevent a new area of confrontation, especially in outer space. Star wars is no longer a fantasy – it is a reality. In the middle of the 1980s our American partners were already able to intercept their own satellite.

In Russia’s opinion, the militarisation of outer space could have unpredictable consequences for the international community, and provoke nothing less than the beginning of a nuclear era. And we have come forward more than once with initiatives designed to prevent the use of weapons in outer space.

Today I would like to tell you that we have prepared a project for an agreement on the prevention of deploying weapons in outer space. And in the near future it will be sent to our partners as an official proposal. Let’s work on this together.

Plans to expand certain elements of the anti-missile defence system to Europe cannot help but disturb us. Who needs the next step of what would be, in this case, an inevitable arms race? I deeply doubt that Europeans themselves do.

Missile weapons with a range of about five to eight thousand kilometres that really pose a threat to Europe do not exist in any of the so-called problem countries. And in the near future and prospects, this will not happen and is not even foreseeable. And any hypothetical launch of, for example, a North Korean rocket to American territory through western Europe obviously contradicts the laws of ballistics. As we say in Russia, it would be like using the right hand to reach the left ear.

And here in Germany I cannot help but mention the pitiable condition of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.

The Adapted Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe was signed in 1999. It took into account a new geopolitical reality, namely the elimination of the Warsaw bloc. Seven years have passed and only four states have ratified this document, including the Russian Federation.

NATO countries openly declared that they will not ratify this treaty, including the provisions on flank restrictions (on deploying a certain number of armed forces in the flank zones), until Russia removed its military bases from Georgia and Moldova. Our army is leaving Georgia, even according to an accelerated schedule. We resolved the problems we had with our Georgian colleagues, as everybody knows. There are still 1,500 servicemen in Moldova that are carrying out peacekeeping operations and protecting warehouses with ammunition left over from Soviet times. We constantly discuss this issue with Mr Solana and he knows our position. We are ready to further work in this direction.

But what is happening at the same time? Simultaneously the so-called flexible frontline American bases with up to five thousand men in each. It turns out that NATO has put its frontline forces on our borders, and we continue to strictly fulfil the treaty obligations and do not react to these actions at all.

I think it is obvious that NATO expansion does not have any relation with the modernisation of the Alliance itself or with ensuring security in Europe. On the contrary, it represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust. And we have the right to ask: against whom is this expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact? Where are those declarations today? No one even remembers them. But I will allow myself to remind this audience what was said. I would like to quote the speech of NATO General Secretary Mr Woerner in Brussels on 17 May 1990. He said at the time that: “the fact that we are ready not to place a NATO army outside of German territory gives the Soviet Union a firm security guarantee”. Where are these guarantees?

The stones and concrete blocks of the Berlin Wall have long been distributed as souvenirs. But we should not forget that the fall of the Berlin Wall was possible thanks to a historic choice – one that was also made by our people, the people of Russia – a choice in favour of democracy, freedom, openness and a sincere partnership with all the members of the big European family.

And now they are trying to impose new dividing lines and walls on us – these walls may be virtual but they are nevertheless dividing, ones that cut through our continent. And is it possible that we will once again require many years and decades, as well as several generations of politicians, to dissemble and dismantle these new walls?

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

We are unequivocally in favour of strengthening the regime of non-proliferation. The present international legal principles allow us to develop technologies to manufacture nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes. And many countries with all good reasons want to create their own nuclear energy as a basis for their energy independence. But we also understand that these technologies can be quickly transformed into nuclear weapons.

This creates serious international tensions. The situation surrounding the Iranian nuclear programme acts as a clear example. And if the international community does not find a reasonable solution for resolving this conflict of interests, the world will continue to suffer similar, destabilising crises because there are more threshold countries than simply Iran. We both know this. We are going to constantly fight against the threat of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Last year Russia put forward the initiative to establish international centres for the enrichment of uranium. We are open to the possibility that such centres not only be created in Russia, but also in other countries where there is a legitimate basis for using civil nuclear energy. Countries that want to develop their nuclear energy could guarantee that they will receive fuel through direct participation in these centres. And the centres would, of course, operate under strict IAEA supervision.

The latest initiatives put forward by American President George W. Bush are in conformity with the Russian proposals. I consider that Russia and the USA are objectively and equally interested in strengthening the regime of the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and their deployment. It is precisely our countries, with leading nuclear and missile capabilities, that must act as leaders in developing new, stricter non-proliferation measures. Russia is ready for such work. We are engaged in consultations with our American friends.

In general, we should talk about establishing a whole system of political incentives and economic stimuli whereby it would not be in states’ interests to establish their own capabilities in the nuclear fuel cycle but they would still have the opportunity to develop nuclear energy and strengthen their energy capabilities.

In connection with this I shall talk about international energy cooperation in more detail. Madam Federal Chancellor also spoke about this briefly – she mentioned, touched on this theme. In the energy sector Russia intends to create uniform market principles and transparent conditions for all. It is obvious that energy prices must be determined by the market instead of being the subject of political speculation, economic pressure or blackmail.

We are open to cooperation. Foreign companies participate in all our major energy projects. According to different estimates, up to 26 percent of the oil extraction in Russia – and please think about this figure – up to 26 percent of the oil extraction in Russia is done by foreign capital. Try, try to find me a similar example where Russian business participates extensively in key economic sectors in western countries. Such examples do not exist! There are no such examples.

I would also recall the parity of foreign investments in Russia and those Russia makes abroad. The parity is about fifteen to one. And here you have an obvious example of the openness and stability of the Russian economy.

Economic security is the sector in which all must adhere to uniform principles. We are ready to compete fairly.

For that reason more and more opportunities are appearing in the Russian economy. Experts and our western partners are objectively evaluating these changes. As such, Russia’s OECD sovereign credit rating improved and Russia passed from the fourth to the third group. And today in Munich I would like to use this occasion to thank our German colleagues for their help in the above decision.

Furthermore. As you know, the process of Russia joining the WTO has reached its final stages. I would point out that during long, difficult talks we heard words about freedom of speech, free trade, and equal possibilities more than once but, for some reason, exclusively in reference to the Russian market.

And there is still one more important theme that directly affects global security. Today many talk about the struggle against poverty. What is actually happening in this sphere? On the one hand, financial resources are allocated for programmes to help the world’s poorest countries – and at times substantial financial resources. But to be honest -- and many here also know this – linked with the development of that same donor country’s companies. And on the other hand, developed countries simultaneously keep their agricultural subsidies and limit some countries’ access to high-tech products.

And let’s say things as they are – one hand distributes charitable help and the other hand not only preserves economic backwardness but also reaps the profits thereof. The increasing social tension in depressed regions inevitably results in the growth of radicalism, extremism, feeds terrorism and local conflicts. And if all this happens in, shall we say, a region such as the Middle East where there is increasingly the sense that the world at large is unfair, then there is the risk of global destabilisation.

It is obvious that the world’s leading countries should see this threat. And that they should therefore build a more democratic, fairer system of global economic relations, a system that would give everyone the chance and the possibility to develop.

Dear ladies and gentlemen, speaking at the Conference on Security Policy, it is impossible not to mention the activities of the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). As is well-known, this organisation was created to examine all – I shall emphasise this – all aspects of security: military, political, economic, humanitarian and, especially, the relations between these spheres.

What do we see happening today? We see that this balance is clearly destroyed. People are trying to transform the OSCE into a vulgar instrument designed to promote the foreign policy interests of one or a group of countries. And this task is also being accomplished by the OSCE’s bureaucratic apparatus which is absolutely not connected with the state founders in any way. Decision-making procedures and the involvement of so-called non-governmental organisations are tailored for this task. These organisations are formally independent but they are purposefully financed and therefore under control.

According to the founding documents, in the humanitarian sphere the OSCE is designed to assist country members in observing international human rights norms at their request. This is an important task. We support this. But this does not mean interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and especially not imposing a regime that determines how these states should live and develop.

It is obvious that such interference does not promote the development of democratic states at all. On the contrary, it makes them dependent and, as a consequence, politically and economically unstable.

We expect that the OSCE be guided by its primary tasks and build relations with sovereign states based on respect, trust and transparency.

Dear ladies and gentlemen!

In conclusion I would like to note the following. We very often – and personally, I very often – hear appeals by our partners, including our European partners, to the effect that Russia should play an increasingly active role in world affairs.

In connection with this I would allow myself to make one small remark. It is hardly necessary to incite us to do so. Russia is a country with a history that spans more than a thousand years and has practically always used the privilege to carry out an independent foreign policy.

We are not going to change this tradition today. At the same time, we are well aware of how the world has changed and we have a realistic sense of our own opportunities and potential. And of course we would like to interact with responsible and independent partners with whom we could work together in constructing a fair and democratic world order that would ensure security and prosperity not only for a select few, but for all.

Thank you for your attention.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


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http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/rede.php?sprache=en&id=179&

Only two decades ago the world was ideologically and economically divided and it was the huge strategic potential of two superpowers that ensured global security.

Èíòåðåñíàÿ ìûñëü: Ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèé ïîòåíöèàë äâóõ ñóïåðäåðæàâ (USA and USSR) îáåñïå÷èâàë ãëîáàëüíóþ áåçîïàñíîñòü.
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A la guerre comme a la guerre èëè âòîðàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ Çàáóãîðíîâà
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Äîáðûé Àäìèíèñòðàòîð (èíîãäà)


: 06.03.2005
: 12000
: Îáåð-ãðóïïåí-äîöåíò, ñò. ðóêîâîäèòåëü ãðóïïû ñêîðîñòíûõ ñâèíãåðîâ, îí æå Çàáàøëåâè÷ Îöààò Ïîýëåâè÷

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Ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà

Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå, óâàæàåìàÿ ãîñïîæà Ôåäåðàëüíûé êàíöëåð, ãîñïîäèí Òåëü÷èê, äàìû è ãîñïîäà!

Âåñüìà ïðèçíàòåëåí çà ïðèãëàøåíèå íà ñòîëü ïðåäñòàâèòåëüíóþ êîíôåðåíöèþ, ñîáðàâøóþ ïîëèòèêîâ, âîåííûõ, ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëåé, ýêñïåðòîâ èç áîëåå ÷åì 40 ñòðàí ìèðà.

Ôîðìàò êîíôåðåíöèè äàåò ìíå âîçìîæíîñòü èçáåæàòü «èçëèøíåãî ïîëèòåñà» è íåîáõîäèìîñòè ãîâîðèòü îêðóãëûìè, ïðèÿòíûìè, íî ïóñòûìè äèïëîìàòè÷åñêèìè øòàìïàìè. Ôîðìàò êîíôåðåíöèè ïîçâîëÿåò ñêàçàòü òî, ÷òî ÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî äóìàþ î ïðîáëåìàõ ìåæäóíàðîäíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè. È åñëè ìîè ðàññóæäåíèÿ ïîêàæóòñÿ íàøèì êîëëåãàì èçëèøíå ïîëåìè÷åñêè çàîñòðåííûìè ëèáî íåòî÷íûìè, ÿ ïðîøó íà ìåíÿ íå ñåðäèòüñÿ – ýòî âåäü òîëüêî êîíôåðåíöèÿ. È íàäåþñü, ÷òî ïîñëå äâóõ-òðåõ ìèíóò ìîåãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ ãîñïîäèí Òåëü÷èê íå âêëþ÷èò òàì «êðàñíûé ñâåò».

Èòàê. Èçâåñòíî, ÷òî ïðîáëåìàòèêà ìåæäóíàðîäíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè ìíîãî øèðå âîïðîñîâ âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêîé ñòàáèëüíîñòè. Ýòî óñòîé÷èâîñòü ìèðîâîé ýêîíîìèêè, ïðåîäîëåíèå áåäíîñòè, ýêîíîìè÷åñêàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü è ðàçâèòèå ìåæöèâèëèçàöèîííîãî äèàëîãà.

Òàêîé âñåîáúåìëþùèé íåäåëèìûé õàðàêòåð áåçîïàñíîñòè âûðàæåí è â åå áàçîâîì ïðèíöèïå: «áåçîïàñíîñòü êàæäîãî – ýòî áåçîïàñíîñòü âñåõ». Êàê ñêàçàë åùå â ïåðâûå äíè ðàçãîðàâøåéñÿ Âòîðîé ìèðîâîé âîéíû Ôðàíêëèí Ðóçâåëüò: «Ãäå áû íè áûë íàðóøåí ìèð, ìèð ïîâñþäó îêàçûâàåòñÿ â îïàñíîñòè è ïîä óãðîçîé».

Ýòè ñëîâà ïðîäîëæàþò ñîõðàíÿòü àêòóàëüíîñòü è ñåãîäíÿ. Îá ýòîì, êñòàòè, ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò è òåìà íàøåé êîíôåðåíöèè, êîòîðàÿ çäåñü íàïèñàíà: «Ãëîáàëüíûå êðèçèñû – ãëîáàëüíàÿ îòâåòñòâåííîñòü».

Âñåãî ëèøü äâà äåñÿòèëåòèÿ íàçàä ìèð áûë èäåîëîãè÷åñêè è ýêîíîìè÷åñêè ðàñêîëîò, à åãî áåçîïàñíîñòü îáåñïå÷èâàëè îãðîìíûå ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèå ïîòåíöèàëû äâóõ ñâåðõäåðæàâ.

Ãëîáàëüíîå ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèå îòîäâèãàëî íà ïåðèôåðèþ ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé è ïîâåñòêè äíÿ êðàéíå îñòðûå ýêîíîìè÷åñêèå è ñîöèàëüíûå âîïðîñû. È, êàê âñÿêàÿ âîéíà, «âîéíà õîëîäíàÿ» îñòàâèëà íàì è «íåðàçîðâàâøèåñÿ ñíàðÿäû», îáðàçíî âûðàæàÿñü. Èìåþ â âèäó èäåîëîãè÷åñêèå ñòåðåîòèïû, äâîéíûå ñòàíäàðòû, èíûå øàáëîíû áëîêîâîãî ìûøëåíèÿ.

Ïðåäëàãàâøèéñÿ æå ïîñëå «õîëîäíîé âîéíû» îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð òîæå íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ.

Èñòîðèÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà, êîíå÷íî, çíàåò è ïåðèîäû îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ è ñòðåìëåíèÿ ê ìèðîâîìó ãîñïîäñòâó. ×åãî òîëüêî íå áûëî â èñòîðèè ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà.

Îäíàêî ÷òî æå òàêîå îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð? Êàê áû íè óêðàøàëè ýòîò òåðìèí, îí â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå îçíà÷àåò íà ïðàêòèêå òîëüêî îäíî: ýòî îäèí öåíòð âëàñòè, îäèí öåíòð ñèëû, îäèí öåíòð ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèÿ.

Ýòî ìèð îäíîãî õîçÿèíà, îäíîãî ñóâåðåíà. È ýòî â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå ãóáèòåëüíî íå òîëüêî äëÿ âñåõ, êòî íàõîäèòñÿ â ðàìêàõ ýòîé ñèñòåìû, íî è äëÿ ñàìîãî ñóâåðåíà, ïîòîìó ÷òî ðàçðóøàåò åãî èçíóòðè.

È ýòî íè÷åãî îáùåãî íå èìååò, êîíå÷íî, ñ äåìîêðàòèåé. Ïîòîìó ÷òî äåìîêðàòèÿ – ýòî, êàê èçâåñòíî, âëàñòü áîëüøèíñòâà ïðè ó÷åòå èíòåðåñîâ è ìíåíèé ìåíüøèíñòâà.

Êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ, Ðîññèþ, íàñ, ïîñòîÿííî ó÷àò äåìîêðàòèè. Íî òå, êòî íàñ ó÷èò, ñàìè ïî÷åìó-òî ó÷èòüñÿ íå î÷åíü õîòÿò.

Ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî äëÿ ñîâðåìåííîãî ìèðà îäíîïîëÿðíàÿ ìîäåëü íå òîëüêî íåïðèåìëåìà, íî è âîîáùå íåâîçìîæíà. È íå òîëüêî ïîòîìó, ÷òî ïðè åäèíîëè÷íîì ëèäåðñòâå â ñîâðåìåííîì – èìåííî â ñîâðåìåííîì – ìèðå íå áóäåò õâàòàòü íè âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ, íè ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ ðåñóðñîâ. Íî ÷òî åùå âàæíåå: ñàìà ìîäåëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåðàáîòàþùåé, òàê êàê â åå îñíîâå íåò è íå ìîæåò áûòü ìîðàëüíî-íðàâñòâåííîé áàçû ñîâðåìåííîé öèâèëèçàöèè.

Âìåñòå ñ òåì âñå, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò ñåãîäíÿ â ìèðå, – è ñåé÷àñ ìû òîëüêî íà÷àëè äèñêóòèðîâàòü îá ýòîì – ýòî ñëåäñòâèå ïîïûòîê âíåäðåíèÿ èìåííî ýòîé êîíöåïöèè â ìèðîâûå äåëà – êîíöåïöèè îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ìèðà.

À êàêîé ðåçóëüòàò?

Îäíîñòîðîííèå, íåëåãèòèìíûå ÷àñòî äåéñòâèÿ íå ðåøèëè íè îäíîé ïðîáëåìû. Áîëåå òîãî, îíè ñòàëè ãåíåðàòîðîì íîâûõ ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ òðàãåäèé è î÷àãîâ íàïðÿæåííîñòè. Ñóäèòå ñàìè: âîéí, ëîêàëüíûõ è ðåãèîíàëüíûõ êîíôëèêòîâ ìåíüøå íå ñòàëî. Ãîñïîäèí Òåëü÷èê âîò îá ýòîì î÷åíü ìÿãêî óïîìÿíóë. È ëþäåé â ýòèõ êîíôëèêòàõ ãèáíåò íå ìåíüøå, à äàæå áîëüøå, ÷åì ðàíüøå – çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå, çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå!

Ñåãîäíÿ ìû íàáëþäàåì ïî÷òè íè÷åì íå ñäåðæèâàåìîå, ãèïåðòðîôèðîâàííîå ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû â ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ, âîåííîé ñèëû, ñèëû, ââåðãàþùåé ìèð â ïó÷èíó ñëåäóþùèõ îäèí çà äðóãèì êîíôëèêòîâ.  ðåçóëüòàòå íå õâàòàåò ñèë íà êîìïëåêñíîå ðåøåíèå íè îäíîãî èç íèõ. Ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåâîçìîæíûì è èõ ïîëèòè÷åñêîå ðåøåíèå.

Ìû âèäèì âñå áîëüøåå ïðåíåáðåæåíèå îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèìè ïðèíöèïàìè ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ïðàâà. Áîëüøå òîãî, îòäåëüíûå íîðìû, äà, ïî ñóòè, ÷óòü ëè íå âñÿ ñèñòåìà ïðàâà îäíîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà, ïðåæäå âñåãî, êîíå÷íî, Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ, ïåðåøàãíóëà ñâîè íàöèîíàëüíûå ãðàíèöû âî âñåõ ñôåðàõ: è â ýêîíîìèêå, è â ïîëèòèêå, è â ãóìàíèòàðíîé ñôåðå – è íàâÿçûâàåòñÿ äðóãèì ãîñóäàðñòâàì. Íó êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ? Êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ?

 ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ âñå ÷àùå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñòðåìëåíèå ðåøèòü òîò èëè èíîé âîïðîñ, èñõîäÿ èç òàê íàçûâàåìîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé öåëåñîîáðàçíîñòè, îñíîâàííîé íà òåêóùåé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé êîíúþíêòóðå.

È ýòî, êîíå÷íî, êðàéíå îïàñíî. È âåäåò ê òîìó, ÷òî íèêòî óæå íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè. ß õî÷ó ýòî ïîä÷åðêíóòü: íèêòî íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè! Ïîòîìó ÷òî íèêòî íå ìîæåò ñïðÿòàòüñÿ çà ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ïðàâîì êàê çà êàìåííîé ñòåíîé. Òàêàÿ ïîëèòèêà ÿâëÿåòñÿ, êîíå÷íî, êàòàëèçàòîðîì ãîíêè âîîðóæåíèé.

Äîìèíèðîâàíèå ôàêòîðà ñèëû íåèçáåæíî ïîäïèòûâàåò òÿãó ðÿäà ñòðàí ê îáëàäàíèþ îðóæèåì ìàññîâîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ. Áîëüøå òîãî, ïîÿâèëèñü ïðèíöèïèàëüíî íîâûå óãðîçû, êîòîðûå è ðàíüøå áûëè èçâåñòíû, íî ñåãîäíÿ ïðèîáðåòàþò ãëîáàëüíûé õàðàêòåð, òàêèå êàê òåððîðèçì.

Óáåæäåí: ìû ïîäîøëè ê òîìó ðóáåæíîìó ìîìåíòó, êîãäà äîëæíû ñåðüåçíî çàäóìàòüñÿ íàä âñåé àðõèòåêòóðîé ãëîáàëüíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè.

È çäåñü íàäî îòòàëêèâàòüñÿ îò ïîèñêà ðàçóìíîãî áàëàíñà ìåæäó èíòåðåñàìè âñåõ ñóáúåêòîâ ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî îáùåíèÿ. Òåì áîëåå ñåé÷àñ, êîãäà «ìåæäóíàðîäíûé ëàíäøàôò» ñòîëü îùóòèìî è ñòîëü áûñòðî ìåíÿåòñÿ – ìåíÿåòñÿ çà ñ÷åò äèíàìè÷íîãî ðàçâèòèÿ öåëîãî ðÿäà ãîñóäàðñòâ è ðåãèîíîâ.

Ãîñïîæà Ôåäåðàëüíûé êàíöëåð óïîìÿíóëà óæå îá ýòîì. Òàê, ñóììàðíûé ÂÂÏ Èíäèè è Êèòàÿ ïî ïàðèòåòíîé ïîêóïàòåëüíîé ñïîñîáíîñòè óæå áîëüøå, ÷åì ó Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè. À ðàññ÷èòàííûé ïî òîìó æå ïðèíöèïó ÂÂÏ ãîñóäàðñòâ ãðóïïû ÁÐÈÊ – Áðàçèëèÿ, Ðîññèÿ, Èíäèÿ è Êèòàé – ïðåâîñõîäèò ñîâîêóïíûé ÂÂÏ Åâðîñîþçà. È, ïî îöåíêàì ýêñïåðòîâ, â îáîçðèìîé èñòîðè÷åñêîé ïåðñïåêòèâå ýòîò ðàçðûâ áóäåò òîëüêî âîçðàñòàòü.

Íå ñòîèò ñîìíåâàòüñÿ, ÷òî ýêîíîìè÷åñêèé ïîòåíöèàë íîâûõ öåíòðîâ ìèðîâîãî ðîñòà áóäåò íåèçáåæíî êîíâåðòèðîâàòüñÿ â ïîëèòè÷åñêîå âëèÿíèå è áóäåò óêðåïëÿòü ìíîãîïîëÿðíîñòü.

 ýòîé ñâÿçè ñåðüåçíî âîçðàñòàåò ðîëü ìíîãîñòîðîííåé äèïëîìàòèè. Îòêðûòîñòü, òðàíñïàðåíòíîñòü è ïðåäñêàçóåìîñòü â ïîëèòèêå áåçàëüòåðíàòèâíû, à ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû äîëæíî áûòü äåéñòâèòåëüíî èñêëþ÷èòåëüíîé ìåðîé òàê æå, êàê è ïðèìåíåíèå ñìåðòíîé êàçíè â ïðàâîâûõ ñèñòåìàõ íåêîòîðûõ ãîñóäàðñòâ.

Ñåãîäíÿ æå ìû, íàîáîðîò, íàáëþäàåì ñèòóàöèþ, êîãäà ñòðàíû, â êîòîðûõ ïðèìåíåíèå ñìåðòíîé êàçíè çàïðåùåíî äàæå â îòíîøåíèè óáèéö è äðóãèõ ïðåñòóïíèêîâ – îïàñíûõ ïðåñòóïíèêîâ, íåñìîòðÿ íà ýòî, òàêèå ñòðàíû ëåãêî èäóò íà ó÷àñòèå â âîåííûõ îïåðàöèÿõ, êîòîðûå òðóäíî íàçâàòü ëåãèòèìíûìè. À âåäü â ýòèõ êîíôëèêòàõ ãèáíóò ëþäè – ñîòíè, òûñÿ÷è ìèðíûõ ëþäåé!

Íî â òî æå âðåìÿ âîçíèêàåò âîïðîñ: ðàçâå ìû äîëæíû áåçó÷àñòíî è áåçâîëüíî âçèðàòü íà ðàçëè÷íûå âíóòðåííèå êîíôëèêòû â îòäåëüíûõ ñòðàíàõ, íà äåéñòâèÿ àâòîðèòàðíûõ ðåæèìîâ, òèðàíîâ, íà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå îðóæèÿ ìàññîâîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ? Èìåííî, ïî ñóòè, ýòî è ëåæàëî â îñíîâå âîïðîñà, êîòîðûé áûë çàäàí Ôåäåðàëüíîìó êàíöëåðó íàøèì óâàæàåìûì êîëëåãîé ãîñïîäèíîì Ëèáåðìàíîì. (Îáðàùàÿñü ê Äæ.Ëèáåðìàíó) Âåäü ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë Âàø âîïðîñ? È, êîíå÷íî, ýòî âîïðîñ ñåðüåçíûé! Ìîæåì ëè ìû áåçó÷àñòíî ñìîòðåòü íà òî, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò? ß ïîïðîáóþ îòâåòèòü íà Âàø âîïðîñ òîæå. Êîíå÷íî, ìû íå äîëæíû ñìîòðåòü áåçó÷àñòíî. Êîíå÷íî, íåò.

Íî åñòü ëè ó íàñ ñðåäñòâà, ÷òîáû ïðîòèâîñòîÿòü ýòèì óãðîçàì? Êîíå÷íî, åñòü. Äîñòàòî÷íî âñïîìíèòü íåäàâíþþ èñòîðèþ. Âåäü ïðîèçîøåë æå ìèðíûé ïåðåõîä ê äåìîêðàòèè â íàøåé ñòðàíå! Âåäü ñîñòîÿëàñü æå ìèðíàÿ òðàíñôîðìàöèÿ ñîâåòñêîãî ðåæèìà – ìèðíàÿ òðàíñôîðìàöèÿ! È êàêîãî ðåæèìà! Ñ êàêèì êîëè÷åñòâîì îðóæèÿ, â òîì ÷èñëå ÿäåðíîãî îðóæèÿ! Ïî÷åìó æå ñåé÷àñ ïðè êàæäîì óäîáíîì ñëó÷àå íóæíî áîìáèòü è ñòðåëÿòü? Íåóæåëè â óñëîâèÿõ îòñóòñòâèÿ óãðîçû âçàèìíîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ íàì íå õâàòàåò ïîëèòè÷åñêîé êóëüòóðû, óâàæåíèÿ ê öåííîñòÿì äåìîêðàòèè è ê ïðàâó?

Óáåæäåí: åäèíñòâåííûì ìåõàíèçìîì ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèé ïî èñïîëüçîâàíèþ âîåííîé ñèëû êàê ïîñëåäíåãî äîâîäà ìîæåò áûòü òîëüêî Óñòàâ ÎÎÍ. È â ýòîé ñâÿçè ÿ èëè íå ïîíÿë òî, ÷òî áûëî ñêàçàíî ñîâñåì íåäàâíî íàøèì êîëëåãîé, ìèíèñòðîì îáîðîíû Èòàëèè, ëèáî îí âûðàçèëñÿ íåòî÷íî. ß, âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, óñëûøàë, ÷òî ëåãèòèìíûì ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ òîëüêî â òîì ñëó÷àå, åñëè ðåøåíèå ïðèíÿòî â ÍÀÒÎ èëè â Åâðîñîþçå, èëè â ÎÎÍ. Åñëè îí äåéñòâèòåëüíî òàê ñ÷èòàåò, òî ó íàñ ñ íèì ðàçíûå òî÷êè çðåíèÿ. Èëè ÿ îñëûøàëñÿ. Ëåãèòèìíûì ìîæíî ñ÷èòàòü ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû, òîëüêî åñëè ðåøåíèå ïðèíÿòî íà îñíîâå è â ðàìêàõ ÎÎÍ. È íå íàäî ïîäìåíÿòü Îðãàíèçàöèþ Îáúåäèíåííûõ Íàöèé íè ÍÀÒÎ, íè Åâðîñîþçîì. È êîãäà ÎÎÍ áóäåò ðåàëüíî îáúåäèíÿòü ñèëû ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ñîîáùåñòâà, êîòîðûå äåéñòâèòåëüíî ìîãóò ðåàãèðîâàòü íà ñîáûòèÿ â îòäåëüíûõ ñòðàíàõ, êîãäà ìû èçáàâèìñÿ îò ïðåíåáðåæåíèÿ ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ïðàâîì, òî ñèòóàöèÿ ìîæåò èçìåíèòüñÿ.  ïðîòèâíîì ñëó÷àå ñèòóàöèÿ áóäåò çàõîäèòü ëèøü â òóïèê è óìíîæàòü êîëè÷åñòâî òÿæåëûõ îøèáîê. Ïðè ýòîì, êîíå÷íî, íóæíî äîáèâàòüñÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ìåæäóíàðîäíîå ïðàâî èìåëî óíèâåðñàëüíûé õàðàêòåð è â ïîíèìàíèè, è â ïðèìåíåíèè íîðì.

È íåëüçÿ çàáûâàòü, ÷òî äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèé îáðàç äåéñòâèé â ïîëèòèêå îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðåäïîëàãàåò äèñêóññèþ è êðîïîòëèâóþ âûðàáîòêó ðåøåíèé.

Óâàæàåìûå äàìû è ãîñïîäà!

Ïîòåíöèàëüíàÿ îïàñíîñòü äåñòàáèëèçàöèè ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé ñâÿçàíà è ñ î÷åâèäíûì çàñòîåì â îáëàñòè ðàçîðóæåíèÿ.

Ðîññèÿ âûñòóïàåò çà âîçîáíîâëåíèå äèàëîãà ïî ýòîìó âàæíåéøåìó âîïðîñó.

Âàæíî ñîõðàíèòü óñòîé÷èâîñòü ìåæäóíàðîäíî-ïðàâîâîé ðàçîðóæåí÷åñêîé áàçû, ïðè ýòîì îáåñïå÷èòü ïðååìñòâåííîñòü ïðîöåññà ñîêðàùåíèÿ ÿäåðíûõ âîîðóæåíèé.

Ìû äîãîâîðèëèñü ñ Ñîåäèíåííûì Øòàòàìè Àìåðèêè î ñîêðàùåíèè íàøèõ ÿäåðíûõ ïîòåíöèàëîâ íà ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèõ íîñèòåëÿõ äî 1700–2200 ÿäåðíûõ áîåçàðÿäîâ ê 31 äåêàáðÿ 2012 ãîäà. Ðîññèÿ íàìåðåíà ñòðîãî âûïîëíÿòü âçÿòûå íà ñåáÿ îáÿçàòåëüñòâà. Íàäååìñÿ, ÷òî è íàøè ïàðòíåðû áóäóò äåéñòâîâàòü òàêæå òðàíñïàðåíòíî è íå áóäóò îòêëàäûâàòü íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé, íà «÷åðíûé äåíü», ëèøíþþ ïàðó ñîòåí ÿäåðíûõ áîåçàðÿäîâ. È, åñëè ñåãîäíÿ íîâûé ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ çäåñü íàì îáúÿâèò, ÷òî Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû íå áóäóò ïðÿòàòü ýòè ëèøíèå çàðÿäû íè íà ñêëàäàõ, íè «ïîä ïîäóøêîé», íè «ïîä îäåÿëîì», ÿ ïðåäëàãàþ âñåì âñòàòü è ñòîÿ ýòî ïîïðèâåòñòâîâàòü. Ýòî áûëî áû î÷åíü âàæíûì çàÿâëåíèåì.

Ðîññèÿ ñòðîãî ïðèäåðæèâàåòñÿ è íàìåðåíà â äàëüíåéøåì ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ Äîãîâîðà î íåðàñïðîñòðàíåíèè ÿäåðíîãî îðóæèÿ è ìíîãîñòîðîííåãî ðåæèìà êîíòðîëÿ çà ðàêåòíûìè òåõíîëîãèÿìè. Ïðèíöèïû, çàëîæåííûå â ýòèõ äîêóìåíòàõ, íîñÿò óíèâåðñàëüíûé õàðàêòåð.

 ýòîé ñâÿçè õîòåë áû âñïîìíèòü, ÷òî â 80-å ãîäû ÑÑÑÐ è Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû ïîäïèñàëè Äîãîâîð î ëèêâèäàöèè öåëîãî êëàññà ðàêåò ñðåäíåé è ìàëîé äàëüíîñòè, íî óíèâåðñàëüíîãî õàðàêòåðà ýòîìó äîêóìåíòó ïðèäàíî íå áûëî.

Ñåãîäíÿ òàêèå ðàêåòû óæå èìååò öåëûé ðÿä ñòðàí: Êîðåéñêàÿ Íàðîäíî-Äåìîêðàòè÷åñêàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà, Ðåñïóáëèêà Êîðåÿ, Èíäèÿ, Èðàí, Ïàêèñòàí, Èçðàèëü. Ìíîãèå äðóãèå ãîñóäàðñòâà ìèðà ðàçðàáàòûâàþò ýòè ñèñòåìû è ïëàíèðóþò ïîñòàâèòü èõ íà âîîðóæåíèå. È òîëüêî Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû Àìåðèêè è Ðîññèÿ íåñóò îáÿçàòåëüñòâà íå ñîçäàâàòü ïîäîáíûõ ñèñòåì âîîðóæåíèé.

ßñíî, ÷òî â ýòèõ óñëîâèÿõ ìû âûíóæäåíû çàäóìàòüñÿ îá îáåñïå÷åíèè ñâîåé ñîáñòâåííîé áåçîïàñíîñòè.

Âìåñòå ñ òåì íåëüçÿ äîïóñòèòü ïîÿâëåíèÿ íîâûõ äåñòàáèëèçèðóþùèõ âûñîêîòåõíîëîãè÷íûõ âèäîâ îðóæèÿ. ß óæå íå ãîâîðþ î ìåðàõ ïî ïðåäóïðåæäåíèþ íîâûõ ñôåð êîíôðîíòàöèè, îñîáåííî â êîñìîñå. «Çâåçäíûå âîéíû», êàê èçâåñòíî, óæå íå ôàíòàñòèêà, à ðåàëüíîñòü. Åùå â ñåðåäèíå 80-õ ãîäîâ [ïðîøëîãî âåêà] íàøè àìåðèêàíñêèå ïàðòíåðû íà ïðàêòèêå ïðîâåëè ïåðåõâàò ñîáñòâåííîãî ñïóòíèêà.

Ìèëèòàðèçàöèÿ êîñìîñà, ïî ìíåíèþ Ðîññèè, ìîæåò ñïðîâîöèðîâàòü íåïðåäñêàçóåìûå äëÿ ìèðîâîãî ñîîáùåñòâà ïîñëåäñòâèÿ – íå ìåíüøèå, ÷åì íà÷àëî ÿäåðíîé ýðû. È ìû íå ðàç âûñòóïàëè ñ èíèöèàòèâàìè, íàïðàâëåííûìè íà íåäîïóùåíèå îðóæèÿ â êîñìîñ.

Ñåãîäíÿ õîòåë áû ïðîèíôîðìèðîâàòü âàñ î òîì, ÷òî íàìè ïîäãîòîâëåí ïðîåêò äîãîâîðà î ïðåäîòâðàùåíèè ðàçìåùåíèÿ îðóæèÿ â êîñìè÷åñêîì ïðîñòðàíñòâå.  áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ îí áóäåò íàïðàâëåí ïàðòíåðàì â êà÷åñòâå îôèöèàëüíîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ. Äàâàéòå ðàáîòàòü íàä ýòèì âìåñòå.

Íàñ òàêæå íå ìîãóò íå òðåâîæèòü ïëàíû ïî ðàçâåðòûâàíèþ ýëåìåíòîâ ñèñòåìû ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîé îáîðîíû â Åâðîïå. Êîìó íóæåí î÷åðåäíîé âèòîê íåèçáåæíîé â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ãîíêè âîîðóæåíèé? Ãëóáîêî ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî ñàìèì åâðîïåéöàì.

Ðàêåòíîãî îðóæèÿ, ðåàëüíî óãðîæàþùåãî Åâðîïå, ñ äàëüíîñòüþ äåéñòâèÿ ïîðÿäêà 5–8 òûñÿ÷ êèëîìåòðîâ, íåò íè ó îäíîé èç òàê íàçûâàåìûõ ïðîáëåìíûõ ñòðàí. È â îáîçðèìîì áóäóùåì è îáîçðèìîé ïåðñïåêòèâå – è íå ïîÿâèòñÿ, è íå ïðåäâèäèòñÿ äàæå. Äà è ãèïîòåòè÷åñêèé ïóñê, íàïðèìåð, ñåâåðîêîðåéñêîé ðàêåòû ïî òåððèòîðèè ÑØÀ ÷åðåç Çàïàäíóþ Åâðîïó – ýòî ÿâíî ïðîòèâîðå÷èò çàêîíàì áàëëèñòèêè. Êàê ãîâîðÿò ó íàñ â Ðîññèè, ýòî âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî «ïðàâîé ðóêîé äîòÿãèâàòüñÿ äî ëåâîãî óõà».

È, íàõîäÿñü çäåñü, â Ãåðìàíèè, íå ìîãó íå óïîìÿíóòü è î êðèçèñíîì ñîñòîÿíèè Äîãîâîðà îá îáû÷íûõ âîîðóæåííûõ ñèëàõ â Åâðîïå.

Àäàïòèðîâàííûé Äîãîâîð îá îáû÷íûõ âîîðóæåííûõ ñèëàõ â Åâðîïå áûë ïîäïèñàí â 1999 ãîäó. Îí ó÷èòûâàë íîâóþ ãåîïîëèòè÷åñêóþ ðåàëüíîñòü – ëèêâèäàöèþ Âàðøàâñêîãî áëîêà. Ñ òåõ ïîð ïðîøëî ñåìü ëåò, è òîëüêî ÷åòûðå ãîñóäàðñòâà ðàòèôèöèðîâàëè ýòîò äîêóìåíò, âêëþ÷àÿ Ðîññèéñêóþ Ôåäåðàöèþ.

Ñòðàíû ÍÀÒÎ îòêðûòî çàÿâèëè, ÷òî íå ðàòèôèöèðóþò Äîãîâîð, âêëþ÷àÿ ïîëîæåíèÿ î ôëàíãîâûõ îãðàíè÷åíèÿõ (î ðàçìåùåíèè íà ôëàíãàõ îïðåäåëåííîãî êîëè÷åñòâà âîîðóæåííûõ ñèë) äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà Ðîññèÿ íå âûâåäåò ñâîè áàçû èç Ãðóçèè è Ìîëäàâèè. Èç Ãðóçèè íàøè âîéñêà âûâîäÿòñÿ, ïðè÷åì äàæå â óñêîðåííîì ïîðÿäêå. Ýòè ïðîáëåìû ìû ñ íàøèìè ãðóçèíñêèìè êîëëåãàìè ðåøèëè, è ýòî âñåì èçâåñòíî.  Ìîëäàâèè îñòàåòñÿ ãðóïïèðîâêà â ïîëòîðû òûñÿ÷è âîåííîñëóæàùèõ, êîòîðûå âûïîëíÿþò ìèðîòâîð÷åñêèå ôóíêöèè è îõðàíÿþò ñêëàäû ñ áîåïðèïàñàìè, îñòàâøèåñÿ ñî âðåìåí ÑÑÑÐ. È ìû ñ ãîñïîäèíîì Ñîëàíîé ïîñòîÿííî îáñóæäàåì ýòîò âîïðîñ, îí çíàåò íàøó ïîçèöèþ. Ìû ãîòîâû è äàëüøå ðàáîòàòü ïî ýòîìó íàïðàâëåíèþ.

Íî ÷òî æå ïðîèñõîäèò â ýòî æå ñàìîå âðåìÿ? À â ýòî ñàìîå âðåìÿ â Áîëãàðèè è Ðóìûíèè ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ òàê íàçûâàåìûå ëåãêèå àìåðèêàíñêèå ïåðåäîâûå áàçû ïî ïÿòü òûñÿ÷ øòûêîâ â êàæäîé. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî ÍÀÒÎ âûäâèãàåò ñâîè ïåðåäîâûå ñèëû ê íàøèì ãîñóäàðñòâåííûì ãðàíèöàì, à ìû, ñòðîãî âûïîëíÿÿ Äîãîâîð, íèêàê íå ðåàãèðóåì íà ýòè äåéñòâèÿ.

Äóìàþ, î÷åâèäíî: ïðîöåññ íàòîâñêîãî ðàñøèðåíèÿ íå èìååò íèêàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ ê ìîäåðíèçàöèè ñàìîãî àëüÿíñà èëè ê îáåñïå÷åíèþ áåçîïàñíîñòè â Åâðîïå. Íàîáîðîò, ýòî ñåðüåçíî ïðîâîöèðóþùèé ôàêòîð, ñíèæàþùèé óðîâåíü âçàèìíîãî äîâåðèÿ. È ó íàñ åñòü ñïðàâåäëèâîå ïðàâî îòêðîâåííî ñïðîñèòü: ïðîòèâ êîãî ýòî ðàñøèðåíèå? È ÷òî ñòàëî ñ òåìè çàâåðåíèÿìè, êîòîðûå äàâàëèñü çàïàäíûìè ïàðòíåðàìè ïîñëå ðîñïóñêà Âàðøàâñêîãî äîãîâîðà? Ãäå òåïåðü ýòè çàÿâëåíèÿ? Î íèõ äàæå íèêòî íå ïîìíèò. Íî ÿ ïîçâîëþ ñåáå íàïîìíèòü â ýòîé àóäèòîðèè, ÷òî áûëî ñêàçàíî. Õîòåë áû ïðèâåñòè öèòàòó èç âûñòóïëåíèÿ Ãåíåðàëüíîãî ñåêðåòàðÿ ÍÀÒÎ ãîñïîäèíà Âåðíåðà â Áðþññåëå 17 ìàÿ 1990 ãîäà. Îí òîãäà ñêàçàë: «Ñàì ôàêò, ÷òî ìû ãîòîâû íå ðàçìåùàòü âîéñêà ÍÀÒÎ çà ïðåäåëàìè òåððèòîðèè ÔÐà äàåò Ñîâåòñêîìó Ñîþçó òâåðäûå ãàðàíòèè áåçîïàñíîñòè». Ãäå ýòè ãàðàíòèè?

Êàìíè è áåòîííûå áëîêè Áåðëèíñêîé ñòåíû äàâíî ðàçîøëèñü íà ñóâåíèðû. Íî íåëüçÿ çàáûâàòü, ÷òî åå ïàäåíèå ñòàëî âîçìîæíûì è áëàãîäàðÿ èñòîðè÷åñêîìó âûáîðó, â òîì ÷èñëå íàøåãî íàðîäà – íàðîäà Ðîññèè, âûáîðó â ïîëüçó äåìîêðàòèè è ñâîáîäû, îòêðûòîñòè è èñêðåííåãî ïàðòíåðñòâà ñî âñåìè ÷ëåíàìè áîëüøîé åâðîïåéñêîé ñåìüè.

Ñåé÷àñ æå íàì ïûòàþòñÿ íàâÿçàòü óæå íîâûå ðàçäåëèòåëüíûå ëèíèè è ñòåíû – ïóñòü âèðòóàëüíûå, íî âñå-òàêè ðàçäåëÿþùèå, ðàçðåçàþùèå íàø îáùèé êîíòèíåíò. Íåóæåëè âíîâü ïîòðåáóþòñÿ äîëãèå ãîäû è äåñÿòèëåòèÿ, ñìåíà íåñêîëüêèõ ïîêîëåíèé ïîëèòèêîâ, ÷òîáû «ðàçîáðàòü» è «äåìîíòèðîâàòü» ýòè íîâûå ñòåíû?

Óâàæàåìûå äàìû è ãîñïîäà!

Ìû îäíîçíà÷íî âûñòóïàåì è çà óêðåïëåíèå ðåæèìà íåðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ. Ñóùåñòâóþùàÿ ìåæäóíàðîäíî-ïðàâîâàÿ áàçà ïîçâîëÿåò ñîçäàâàòü òåõíîëîãèè ïî âûðàáîòêå ÿäåðíîãî òîïëèâà äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ åãî â ìèðíûõ öåëÿõ. È ìíîãèå ñòðàíû ñ ïîëíûì íà òî îñíîâàíèåì õîòÿò ñîçäàâàòü ñîáñòâåííóþ ÿäåðíóþ ýíåðãåòèêó êàê îñíîâó èõ ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Íî ìû òàêæå ïîíèìàåì, ÷òî ýòè òåõíîëîãèè ìîãóò áûòü áûñòðî òðàíñôîðìèðîâàíû â ïîëó÷åíèå îðóæåéíûõ ìàòåðèàëîâ.

Ýòî âûçûâàåò ñåðüåçíîå ìåæäóíàðîäíîå íàïðÿæåíèå. ßðêèé òîìó ïðèìåð – ñèòóàöèÿ ñ èðàíñêîé ÿäåðíîé ïðîãðàììîé. Åñëè ìåæäóíàðîäíîå ñîîáùåñòâî íå âûðàáîòàåò ðàçóìíîãî ðåøåíèÿ ýòîãî êîíôëèêòà èíòåðåñîâ, ìèð è äàëüøå áóäóò ïîòðÿñàòü ïîäîáíûå äåñòàáèëèçèðóþùèå êðèçèñû, ïîòîìó ÷òî ïîðîãîâûõ ñòðàí áîëüøå, ÷åì Èðàí, è ìû ñ âàìè îá ýòîì çíàåì. Ìû áóäåì ïîñòîÿííî ñòàëêèâàòüñÿ ñ óãðîçîé ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ îðóæèÿ ìàññîâîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ.

 ïðîøëîì ãîäó Ðîññèÿ âûñòóïèëà ñ èíèöèàòèâîé ñîçäàíèÿ ìíîãîíàöèîíàëüíûõ öåíòðîâ ïî îáîãàùåíèþ óðàíà. Ìû îòêðûòû ê òîìó, ÷òîáû ïîäîáíûå öåíòðû ñîçäàâàëèñü íå òîëüêî â Ðîññèè, íî è â äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ, ãäå íà ëåãèòèìíîé îñíîâå ñóùåñòâóåò ìèðíàÿ ÿäåðíàÿ ýíåðãåòèêà. Ãîñóäàðñòâà, æåëàþùèå ðàçâèâàòü àòîìíóþ ýíåðãåòèêó, ìîãëè áû ãàðàíòèðîâàííî ïîëó÷àòü òîïëèâî ÷åðåç íåïîñðåäñòâåííîå ó÷àñòèå â ðàáîòå ýòèõ öåíòðîâ, êîíå÷íî æå, ïîä ñòðîãèì êîíòðîëåì ÌÀÃÀÒÝ.

Ñ ðîññèéñêèì ïðåäëîæåíèåì ñîçâó÷íû è ïîñëåäíèå èíèöèàòèâû Ïðåçèäåíòà Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ Àìåðèêè Äæîðäæà Áóøà. Ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ è ÑØÀ îáúåêòèâíî è â îäèíàêîâîé ñòåïåíè çàèíòåðåñîâàíû â óæåñòî÷åíèè ðåæèìîâ íåðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ îðóæèÿ ìàññîâîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ è ñðåäñòâ åãî äîñòàâêè. Èìåííî íàøè ñòðàíû, ÿâëÿþùèåñÿ ëèäåðàìè ïî ÿäåðíîìó è ðàêåòíîìó ïîòåíöèàëó, äîëæíû ñòàòü è ëèäåðàìè â ðàçðàáîòêå íîâûõ, áîëåå æåñòêèõ ìåð â ñôåðå íåðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ. Ðîññèÿ ãîòîâà ê òàêîé ðàáîòå. Ìû âåäåì êîíñóëüòàöèè ñ íàøèìè àìåðèêàíñêèìè äðóçüÿìè.

 öåëîì ðå÷ü äîëæíà èäòè î ñîçäàíèè öåëîé ñèñòåìû ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ ðû÷àãîâ è ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ ñòèìóëîâ – ñòèìóëîâ, ïðè êîòîðûõ ãîñóäàðñòâà áûëè áû çàèíòåðåñîâàíû íå ñîçäàâàòü ñîáñòâåííûå ìîùíîñòè ÿäåðíîãî òîïëèâíîãî öèêëà, íî èìåëè áû âîçìîæíîñòü ðàçâèâàòü àòîìíóþ ýíåðãåòèêó, óêðåïëÿÿ ñâîé ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèé ïîòåíöèàë.

 ýòîé ñâÿçè ïîäðîáíåå îñòàíîâëþñü íà ìåæäóíàðîäíîì ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîì ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâå. Ãîñïîæà Ôåäåðàëüíûé êàíöëåð òîæå îá ýòîì êîðîòêî, íî óïîìÿíóëà, çàòðîíóëà ýòó òåìó.  ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîé ñôåðå Ðîññèÿ îðèåíòèðóåòñÿ íà ñîçäàíèå åäèíûõ äëÿ âñåõ ðûíî÷íûõ ïðèíöèïîâ è ïðîçðà÷íûõ óñëîâèé. Î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî öåíà íà ýíåðãîíîñèòåëè äîëæíà îïðåäåëÿòüñÿ ðûíêîì, à íå ÿâëÿòüñÿ ïðåäìåòîì ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ ñïåêóëÿöèé, ýêîíîìè÷åñêîãî äàâëåíèÿ èëè øàíòàæà.

Ìû îòêðûòû äëÿ ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà. Çàðóáåæíûå êîìïàíèè ó÷àñòâóþò â íàøèõ êðóïíåéøèõ ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèõ ïðîåêòàõ. Ïî ðàçëè÷íûì îöåíêàì, äî 26 ïðîöåíòîâ äîáû÷è íåôòè â Ðîññèè – âîò âäóìàéòåñü â ýòó öèôðó, ïîæàëóéñòà, – äî 26 ïðîöåíòîâ äîáû÷è íåôòè â Ðîññèè ïðèõîäèòñÿ íà èíîñòðàííûé êàïèòàë. Ïîïðîáóéòå, ïîïðîáóéòå ïðèâåñòè ìíå ïðèìåð ïîäîáíîãî øèðîêîãî ïðèñóòñòâèÿ ðîññèéñêîãî áèçíåñà â êëþ÷åâûõ îòðàñëÿõ ýêîíîìèêè çàïàäíûõ ãîñóäàðñòâ. Íåò òàêèõ ïðèìåðîâ! Òàêèõ ïðèìåðîâ íåò.

Íàïîìíþ òàêæå î ñîîòíîøåíèè èíâåñòèöèé, ïîñòóïàþùèõ â Ðîññèþ è èäóùèõ èç Ðîññèè â äðóãèå ñòðàíû ìèðà. Ñîîòíîøåíèå – ïðèìåðíî ïÿòíàäöàòü ê îäíîìó. Âîò âàì çðèìûé ïðèìåð îòêðûòîñòè è ñòàáèëüíîñòè ðîññèéñêîé ýêîíîìèêè.

Ýêîíîìè÷åñêàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü – ýòî ñôåðà, ãäå âñåì ñëåäóåò ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ åäèíûõ ïðèíöèïîâ. Ìû ãîòîâû ÷åñòíî êîíêóðèðîâàòü.

Äëÿ ýòîãî ó ðîññèéñêîé ýêîíîìèêè ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ âñå áîëüøå âîçìîæíîñòåé. Òàêóþ äèíàìèêó îáúåêòèâíî îöåíèâàþò ýêñïåðòû è íàøè çàðóáåæíûå ïàðòíåðû. Òàê, íåäàâíî áûë ïîâûøåí ðåéòèíã Ðîññèè â ÎÝÑÐ: èç ÷åòâåðòîé ãðóïïû ðèñêà íàøà ñòðàíà ïåðåøëà â òðåòüþ. È õîòåë áû, ïîëüçóÿñü ñëó÷àåì, çäåñü, ñåãîäíÿ â Ìþíõåíå, ïîáëàãîäàðèòü íàøèõ ãåðìàíñêèõ êîëëåã çà ñîäåéñòâèå â ïðèíÿòèè âûøåíàçâàííîãî ðåøåíèÿ.

Äàëåå. Êàê âû çíàåòå, ïðîöåññ ïðèñîåäèíåíèÿ Ðîññèè ê ÂÒÎ âûøåë íà ôèíàëüíóþ ñòàäèþ. Îòìå÷ó, ÷òî â õîäå äîëãèõ íåïðîñòûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ ìû íå ðàç ñëûøàëè ñëîâà î ñâîáîäå ñëîâà, î ñâîáîäå òîðãîâëè, î ðàâíûõ âîçìîæíîñòÿõ, íî ïî÷åìó-òî èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî, ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê íàøåìó, ðîññèéñêîìó ðûíêó.

È åùå îäíà âàæíàÿ òåìà, ïðÿìî âëèÿþùàÿ íà ãëîáàëüíóþ áåçîïàñíîñòü. Ñåãîäíÿ ìíîãî ãîâîðÿò î áîðüáå ñ áåäíîñòüþ. ×òî çäåñü ïðîèñõîäèò íà ñàìîì äåëå? Ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû, íà ïðîãðàììû ïîìîùè áåäíåéøèì ñòðàíàì âûäåëÿþòñÿ ôèíàíñîâûå ðåñóðñû – è ïîä÷àñ íåìàëåíüêèå ôèíàíñîâûå ðåñóðñû. Íî ïî-÷åñòíîìó, è îá ýòîì çäåñü ìíîãèå òîæå ýòî çíàþò, çà÷àñòóþ ïîä «îñâîåíèå» êîìïàíèÿìè ñàìèõ æå ñòðàí-äîíîðîâ. Íî â òîæå âðåìÿ, ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, â ðàçâèòûõ ñòðàíàõ ñîõðàíÿþòñÿ ñóáñèäèè â ñåëüñêîì õîçÿéñòâå, îãðàíè÷èâàåòñÿ äëÿ äðóãèõ äîñòóï ê âûñîêèì òåõíîëîãèÿì.

È äàâàéòå íàçûâàòü âåùè ñâîèìè èìåíàìè: ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî îäíîé ðóêîé ðàçäàåòñÿ «áëàãîòâîðèòåëüíàÿ ïîìîùü», à äðóãîé – íå òîëüêî êîíñåðâèðóåòñÿ ýêîíîìè÷åñêàÿ îòñòàëîñòü, à åùå è ñîáèðàåòñÿ ïðèáûëü. Âîçíèêàþùåå ñîöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå â òàêèõ äåïðåññèâíûõ ðåãèîíàõ íåèçáåæíî âûëèâàåòñÿ â ðîñò ðàäèêàëèçìà, ýêñòðåìèçìà, ïîäïèòûâàåò òåððîðèçì è ëîêàëüíûå êîíôëèêòû. À åñëè âñå ýòî âäîáàâîê ïðîèñõîäèò, ñêàæåì, íà Áëèæíåì Âîñòîêå â óñëîâèÿõ îáîñòðåííîãî âîñïðèÿòèÿ âíåøíåãî ìèðà êàê íåñïðàâåäëèâîãî, òî âîçíèêàåò ðèñê äëÿ ãëîáàëüíîé äåñòàáèëèçàöèè.

Î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî âåäóùèå ñòðàíû ìèðà äîëæíû âèäåòü ýòó óãðîçó. È, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, âûñòðàèâàòü áîëåå äåìîêðàòè÷åñêóþ, ñïðàâåäëèâóþ ñèñòåìó ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ îòíîøåíèé â ìèðå – ñèñòåìó, äàþùóþ âñåì øàíñ è âîçìîæíîñòü äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ.

Âûñòóïàÿ íà êîíôåðåíöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, óâàæàåìûå äàìû è ãîñïîäà, íåëüçÿ îáîéòè ìîë÷àíèåì è äåÿòåëüíîñòü Îðãàíèçàöèè ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè è ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâó â Åâðîïå. Êàê èçâåñòíî, îíà áûëà ñîçäàíà, ÷òîáû ðàññìàòðèâàòü âñå – ÿ ïîä÷åðêíó ýòî, – âñå, âñå àñïåêòû áåçîïàñíîñòè: âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèå, ýêîíîìè÷åñêèå, ãóìàíèòàðíûå, ïðè÷åì â èõ âçàèìîñâÿçè.

Ñåãîäíÿ ÷òî ìû âèäèì íà ïðàêòèêå? Ìû âèäèì, ÷òî ýòîò áàëàíñ ÿâíî íàðóøåí. ÎÁÑÅ ïûòàþòñÿ ïðåâðàòèòü â âóëüãàðíûé èíñòðóìåíò îáåñïå÷åíèÿ âíåøíåïîëèòè÷åñêèõ èíòåðåñîâ îäíîé èëè ãðóïïû ñòðàí â îòíîøåíèè äðóãèõ ñòðàí. È ïîä ýòó çàäà÷ó «ñêðîèëè» è áþðîêðàòè÷åñêèé àïïàðàò ÎÁÑÅ, êîòîðûé àáñîëþòíî íèêàê íå ñâÿçàí ñ ãîñóäàðñòâàìè-ó÷ðåäèòåëÿìè. «Ñêðîèëè» ïîä ýòó çàäà÷ó ïðîöåäóðû ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèé è èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ òàê íàçûâàåìûõ íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèé. Ôîðìàëüíî – äà, íåçàâèñèìûõ, íî öåëåíàïðàâëåííî ôèíàíñèðóåìûõ, à çíà÷èò, ïîäêîíòðîëüíûõ.

Ñîãëàñíî îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèì äîêóìåíòàì â ãóìàíèòàðíîé ñôåðå ÎÁÑÅ ïðèçâàíà îêàçûâàòü ñòðàíàì-÷ëåíàì ïî èõ ïðîñüáå ñîäåéñòâèå â ñîáëþäåíèè ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ íîðì â îáëàñòè ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà. Ýòî âàæíàÿ çàäà÷à. Ìû åå ïîääåðæèâàåì. Íî âîâñå ýòî íå îçíà÷àåò âìåøàòåëüñòâî âî âíóòðåííèå äåëà äðóãèõ ñòðàí, òåì áîëåå íàâÿçûâàíèÿ ýòèì ãîñóäàðñòâàì òîãî, êàê îíè äîëæíû æèòü è ðàçâèâàòüñÿ.

Î÷åâèäíî, ÷òî òàêîå âìåøàòåëüñòâî îòíþäü íå ñïîñîáñòâóåò âûçðåâàíèþ ïîäëèííî äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ. È, íàîáîðîò, äåëàåò èõ çàâèñèìûìè è êàê ñëåäñòâèå íåñòàáèëüíûìè â ïîëèòè÷åñêîì è ýêîíîìè÷åñêîì ïëàíå.

Ìû ðàññ÷èòûâàåì íà òî, ÷òî ÎÁÑÅ áóäåò ðóêîâîäñòâîâàòüñÿ ñâîèìè íåïîñðåäñòâåííûìè çàäà÷àìè è âûñòðàèâàòü îòíîøåíèÿ ñ ñóâåðåííûìè ãîñóäàðñòâàìè íà îñíîâå óâàæåíèÿ, äîâåðèÿ è òðàíñïàðåíòíîñòè.

Óâàæàåìûå äàìû è ãîñïîäà!

 çàêëþ÷åíèå õîòåë áû îòìåòèòü ñëåäóþùåå. Ìû î÷åíü ÷àñòî, è ÿ ëè÷íî î÷åíü ÷àñòî ñëûøó ïðèçûâû ê Ðîññèè ñî ñòîðîíû íàøèõ ïàðòíåðîâ, â òîì ÷èñëå è ñî ñòîðîíû åâðîïåéñêèõ ïàðòíåðîâ, èãðàòü áîëåå è áîëåå àêòèâíóþ ðîëü â ìèðîâûõ äåëàõ.

 ýòîé ñâÿçè ïîçâîëþ ñåáå ñäåëàòü îäíó ìàëåíüêóþ ðåìàðêó. Âðÿä ëè íàñ íóæíî ïîäòàëêèâàòü è ñòèìóëèðîâàòü ê ýòîìó. Ðîññèÿ – ñòðàíà ñ áîëåå ÷åì òûñÿ÷åëåòíåé èñòîðèåé, è ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñåãäà îíà ïîëüçîâàëàñü ïðèâèëåãèåé ïðîâîäèòü íåçàâèñèìóþ âíåøíþþ ïîëèòèêó.

Ìû íå ñîáèðàåìñÿ èçìåíÿòü ýòîé òðàäèöèè è ñåãîäíÿ. Âìåñòå ñ òåì ìû õîðîøî âèäèì, êàê èçìåíèëñÿ ìèð, ðåàëèñòè÷íî îöåíèâàåì ñâîè ñîáñòâåííûå âîçìîæíîñòè è ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé ïîòåíöèàë. È, êîíå÷íî, íàì áû òàêæå õîòåëîñü èìåòü äåëî ñ îòâåòñòâåííûìè è òîæå ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíûìè ïàðòíåðàìè, ñ êîòîðûìè ìû âìåñòå ìîãëè áû ðàáîòàòü íàä ñòðîèòåëüñòâîì ñïðàâåäëèâîãî è äåìîêðàòè÷åñêîãî ìèðîóñòðîéñòâà, îáåñïå÷èâàÿ â íåì áåçîïàñíîñòü è ïðîöâåòàíèå íå äëÿ èçáðàííûõ, à äëÿ âñåõ.

Áëàãîäàðþ çà âíèìàíèå.

Õ.ÒÅËÜ×ÈÊ: Ñåðäå÷íîå ñïàñèáî çà Âàøå âàæíîå âûñòóïëåíèå. Ïðîçâó÷àëè íîâûå òåìû, â òîì ÷èñëå âîïðîñ î ãëîáàëüíîé àðõèòåêòóðå, êîòîðûé â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû íå áûë íà ïåðåäíåì ïëàíå; ðàçîðóæåíèå, êîíòðîëü íàä âîîðóæåíèÿìè, âîïðîñ îòíîøåíèé Ñåâåðîàòëàíòè÷åñêîãî àëüÿíñà è Ðîññèè, ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî â îáëàñòè òåõíîëîãèé.

Åñòü åùå öåëûé ðÿä âîïðîñîâ, è ãîñïîäèí Ïðåçèäåíò ãîòîâ îòâåòèòü.

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Ìíîãîóâàæàåìûé ãîñïîäèí Ïðåçèäåíò, ñïàñèáî çà Âàøå âûñòóïëåíèå. Õîòåë áû ïîä÷åðêíóòü, ÷òî â ãåðìàíñêîì áóíäåñòàãå ìû óáåæäåíû, íàñêîëüêî âàæíà Ðîññèÿ â êà÷åñòâå ïàðòíåðà Åâðîïû è âàæíà ðîëü, êîòîðóþ Âû èãðàåòå. Îá ýòîì ñêàçàëà è Ôåäåðàëüíûé êàíöëåð â ñâîåì âûñòóïëåíèè.

ß õîòåë áû, èñõîäÿ èç ñâîåãî îïûòà, êîñíóòüñÿ äâóõ ïóíêòîâ Âàøåãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ. Ýòî, âî-ïåðâûõ, îöåíêà ÍÀÒÎ, åãî ðàñøèðåíèÿ, êîòîðîå Âû ñ÷èòàåòå îïàñíûì äëÿ Ðîññèè. Âû ïðèçíàåòå, ÷òî ðàñøèðåíèå – ýòî ôàêòè÷åñêè íå ðàñøèðåíèå, à ñàìîîïðåäåëåíèå äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèõ ãîñóäàðñòâ, êîòîðûå çàõîòåëè ïîéòè òàêèì ïóòåì? È ÷òî ÍÀÒÎ çàòðóäíÿåòñÿ ïðèíèìàòü ãîñóäàðñòâà, êîòîðûå íå èçúÿâëÿþò òàêîé ãîòîâíîñòè? Âû ìîãëè áû ïðèçíàòüñÿ â òîì, ÷òî çà ñ÷åò ðàñøèðåíèÿ ÍÀÒÎ âîñòî÷íûå ãðàíèöû ñòàëè áîëåå íàäåæíû, áåçîïàñíû. Ïî÷åìó Âû áîèòåñü äåìîêðàòèè? ß óáåæäåí, ÷òî òîëüêî äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèå ãîñóäàðñòâà ìîãóò ñòàòü ÷ëåíàìè ÍÀÒÎ. Ýòî ñòàáèëèçèðóåò ñîñåäåé.

Ê âîïðîñó î òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âíóòðè Âàøåé ñòðàíû. Óáèëè Àííó Ïîëèòêîâñêóþ – ýòî ñèìâîë. Ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, ýòî êàñàåòñÿ ìíîãèõ æóðíàëèñòîâ, ñòðàõè âñÿêèå, çàêîí î íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèÿõ – ýòî âûçûâàåò òðåâîãó.

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: ß õîðîøî ïîíèìàþ Âàøå çàìå÷àíèå î íåðàñïðîñòðàíåíèè. Îñîáåííî â êîíöå «õîëîäíîé âîéíû» ìû âèäåëè ñîêðàùåíèå ðàçìåùåíèÿ ÿäåðíîãî îðóæèÿ, íî âèäåëè òàêæå è ðîñò òåððîðèçìà. ßäåðíûå ìàòåðèàëû äîëæíû áûòü ñåðüåçíî çàùèùåíû îò òåððîðèñòîâ.

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Êîñíóñü âîïðîñà, êîòîðûé áûë çàäàí è Ôåäåðàëüíîìó êàíöëåðó. ×òî áóäåò äàëüøå â Êîñîâå è â Ñåðáèè? Êàê Âû îöåíèâàåòå Ì.Àõòèñààðè? Êàêîå âëèÿíèå îêàæåò Ðîññèÿ íà ðåøåíèå ýòîé ïðîáëåìû?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Âû ìîæåòå ïðîêîììåíòèðîâàòü îïûò, êîòîðûé ñëîæèëñÿ ó ðîññèéñêèõ âîåííîñëóæàùèõ â ×å÷íå? Î Âàøåì ïðèìå÷àíèè ïî ýíåðãåòèêå: Âû èçëîæèëè âêðàòöå, ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ðûíî÷íîé ðîëè ýíåðãèè â ïîëèòèêå. Åâðîïåéñêèé ñîþç çàèíòåðåñîâàí â òîì, ÷òîáû äîáèòüñÿ çàêëþ÷åíèÿ ïàðòíåðñêîãî ñîãëàøåíèÿ, ÷òîáû áûëè çàôèêñèðîâàíû ïðèíöèïû â îáëàñòè ïîëèòèêè. Âû ãîòîâû îáåñïå÷èòü íàäåæíîñòü ïîñòàâîê ðåñóðñîâ è âêëþ÷èòü â ñîñòàâ ýòîãî ñîãëàøåíèÿ?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Ãîñïîäèí Ïðåçèäåíò, Âû âûñòóïèëè ñ èñêðåííèìè, îòêðîâåííûìè çàìå÷àíèÿìè. Íàäåþñü, Âû ïîéìåòå ìîé îòêðîâåííûé è ïðÿìîé âîïðîñ.  90-å ãîäû ðîññèéñêèå ýêñïåðòû àêòèâíî ïîìîãàëè Èðàíó â ðàçðàáîòêå ðàêåòíûõ òåõíîëîãèé. Èðàí ñåé÷àñ èìååò ïðîäâèíóòûå ðàêåòû ñðåäíåãî è äàëüíåãî ðàäèóñà äåéñòâèÿ, ÷òî ïîçâîëÿåò åìó íàíåñòè óäàð ïî Ðîññèè è ïî ÷àñòè Åâðîïû. Îíè òàêæå ðàáîòàþò íàä òåì, ÷òîáû ïîìåñòèòü íà ýòè ðàêåòû ÿäåðíûå áîåãîëîâêè. Âàøà ñòðàíà ïðåäïðèíÿëà óñèëèÿ ïî ïåðåãîâîðàì ñ Èðàíîì ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó è ïîääåðæàëà ðåçîëþöèþ ÑÁ ÎÎÍ, ÷òîáû íå äàòü Èðàíó ïðîâîäèòü òàêóþ ïîëèòèêó.

Ìîé âîïðîñ çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â ñëåäóþùåì: êàêèå óñèëèÿ ïðåäïðèìåò Ðîññèÿ – ÷åðåç ÎÎÍ èëè èíûì îáðàçîì – äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïðåêðàòèòü ýòè î÷åíü ñåðüåçíûå ñîáûòèÿ â Èðàíå?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: ß óâåðåí, ÷òî èñòîðèêè íå íàïèøóò â îäèí ïðåêðàñíûé äåíü, ÷òî âî âðåìÿ íàøåé êîíôåðåíöèè áûëà îáúÿâëåíà âòîðàÿ «õîëîäíàÿ âîéíà». Íî ìîãëè áû. Âû ãîâîðèëè, ÷òî íóæíî è îêàçûâàòü äàâëåíèå íà Èðàí, è äàâàòü ïîëîæèòåëüíûå èìïóëüñû. Íå ïðàâäà ëè, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ ïðåïÿòñòâóåò ñèëüíîìó äàâëåíèþ â âèäå ñàíêöèé, è, âî-âòîðûõ, ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ïîñòàâîê îðóæèÿ òóäà, – ýòî èõ ïîäáàäðèâàåò, òåì áîëåå ÷òî îðóæèå ýòî îêàçàëîñü â Ëèâàíå è â ñåêòîðå Ãàçà. Êàê Âû ìîæåòå ýòî ïðîêîììåíòèðîâàòü?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: ß ïîíèìàþ Âàøó èñêðåííîñòü è íàäåþñü, ÷òî Âû ñîãëàñèòåñü ñ íàøåé èñêðåííîñòüþ. Âî-ïåðâûõ, êîíòðîëü íàä âîîðóæåíèÿìè. Êîìó íóæíà ãîíêà âîîðóæåíèé? ß õî÷ó óêàçàòü, ÷òî ÑØÀ íå ðàçðàáàòûâàþò íîâîå ñòðàòåãè÷åñêîå îðóæèå óæå áîëåå äâóõ äåñÿòèëåòèé, à Âû íåäàâíî èñïûòàëè «Òîïîëü-Ì», êîòîðûé óæå ðàçìåùåí â øàõòàõ è íà ìîáèëüíûõ óñòàíîâêàõ. Âû êðèòèêîâàëè ÑØÀ çà îäíîñòîðîííèå äåéñòâèÿ è äâàæäû ñêàçàëè, ÷òî âîåííûå äåéñòâèÿ ìîãóò áûòü çàêîííûìè, òîëüêî åñëè îíè îäîáðåíû ÎÎÍ. ÑØÀ âåäóò áîåâûå äåéñòâèÿ â Èðàêå è Àôãàíèñòàíå ïî ðåøåíèþ ÎÎÍ, à â Êîñîâå ñåãîäíÿ áîëüøèíñòâî ïîääåðæèâàåò ìèðîòâîð÷åñêóþ îïåðàöèþ â ýòîé ñòðàíå.

Ìîé âîïðîñ òàêîé: ãîâîðèòå ëè Âû ñåé÷àñ, ÷òî íåçàâèñèìî îò òîãî, êàê Ðîññèÿ ðàññìàòðèâàåò óãðîçó ñâîèì ìåæäóíàðîäíûì èíòåðåñàì, îíà íå áóäåò ïðåäïðèíèìàòü áîåâûå äåéñòâèÿ áåç îäîáðåíèÿ ÎÎÍ?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Âû ãîâîðèëè îá îïàñíîñòè îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ìèðà, êîãäà îäèí ñóâåðåí ïðèíèìàåò ðåøåíèå áåç êîíñóëüòàöèè ñ äðóãèìè.  Ðîññèè, ïî ìíåíèþ ìíîãèõ, ìû âèäèì âñå áîëåå îäíîïîëÿðíîå ïðàâèòåëüñòâî, ãäå êîíêóðèðóþùèå öåíòðû âëèÿíèÿ âûíóæäåíû ñëåäîâàòü ïàðòèéíîé ëèíèè, áóäü òî Ãîñäóìà, ðóêîâîäñòâî â ðåãèîíàõ, ÑÌÈ, áèçíåñ-ñîîáùåñòâî, ÍÏÎ. Áóäåò ëè îäíîïîëÿðíîå ïðàâèòåëüñòâî òàêîãî ðîäà íàäåæíûì ïàðòíåðîì, êîãäà ðå÷ü èäåò îá ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòè?

Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: Ïðåæäå âñåãî õî÷ó âàñ ïîáëàãîäàðèòü çà ýòè âîïðîñû. Î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî. Æàëêî, ÷òî ó íàñ ìàëî âðåìåíè, ÿ ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì áû ñ êàæäûì èç âàñ ïðîâåë îòäåëüíóþ äèñêóññèþ. ß ýòî ëþáëþ, ìíå íðàâèòñÿ.

Íà÷íó ñ ïîñëåäíåãî âîïðîñà ïî ïîâîäó îäíîïîëÿðíîñòè ðîññèéñêîãî ïðàâèòåëüñòâà.  ðîññèéñêîì ïàðëàìåíòå ñåãîäíÿ ïðåäñòàâëåíû Êîììóíèñòè÷åñêàÿ ïàðòèÿ Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, ïàðòèÿ «Åäèíàÿ Ðîññèÿ», Ëèáåðàëüíî-äåìîêðàòè÷åñêàÿ ïàðòèÿ, ïðåäñòàâëåíû äðóãèå ïîëèòè÷åñêèå ñèëû, êîòîðûå ïðèíöèïèàëüíî, ïî ñâîèì îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèì âçãëÿäàì, îòëè÷àþòñÿ äðóã îò äðóãà. Åñëè Âàì ýòî íåèçâåñòíî, ïîáåñåäóéòå ñ ðóêîâîäñòâîì Êîììóíèñòè÷åñêîé ïàðòèè Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè, à ïîòîì ñ ëèäåðîì íàøèõ ëèáåðàëüíûõ äåìîêðàòîâ ãîñïîäèíîì Æèðèíîâñêèì. È Âû ñðàçó æå óâèäèòå ðàçíèöó. Åñëè Âàì ñåé÷àñ íå âèäíî, ïîáåñåäóéòå ñ íèìè. Çäåñü íåò íèêàêèõ ïðîáëåì – ïðèåõàòü â Ìîñêâó è ïîãîâîðèòü.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ òîãî, êàê ìû â áóäóùåì ïëàíèðóåì ýòî äåëàòü. Ìû áû õîòåëè, ÷òîáû ó íàñ áûëà çðåëàÿ ïîëèòè÷åñêàÿ ñèñòåìà, ÷òîáû ó íàñ áûëà ìíîãîïàðòèéíàÿ ñèñòåìà ñ îòâåòñòâåííûìè ïîëèòèêàìè, êîòîðûå ìîãóò ïðîãíîçèðîâàòü ðàçâèòèå ñòðàíû è îòâåòñòâåííî äåéñòâîâàòü íå òîëüêî â ïåðèîä âûáîðîâ è ïîñëå íèõ, à è íà äëèòåëüíóþ èñòîðè÷åñêóþ ïåðñïåêòèâó. Âîò áóäåì ê ýòîìó ñòðåìèòüñÿ. Íî ýòà ñèñòåìà, êîíå÷íî æå, áóäåò ìíîãîïàðòèéíîé. Âñå íàøè äåéñòâèÿ âíóòðè ñòðàíû, â òîì ÷èñëå êàñàþùèåñÿ èçìåíåíèÿ ïîðÿäêà èçáðàíèÿ â Ãîñóäàðñòâåííóþ Äóìó, â ïàðëàìåíò Ðîññèè, íàïðàâëåíû èìåííî íà óêðåïëåíèå ìíîãîïàðòèéíîé ñèñòåìû â ñòðàíå.

Òåïåðü î òîì, â ñîñòîÿíèè ëè íàøå Ïðàâèòåëüñòâî äåéñòâîâàòü îòâåòñòâåííî ïðè ðåøåíèè ïðîáëåì ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèõ ïîñòàâîê è ïî îáåñïå÷åíèþ ýíåðãåòè÷åñêîé áåçîïàñíîñòè. Êîíå÷íî, äà! Áîëåå òîãî, âñå, ÷òî ìû äåëàëè äî ñèõ ïîð è äåëàåì ñåé÷àñ, íàïðàâëåíî íà äîñòèæåíèå òîëüêî îäíîé öåëè: ïåðåâåñòè íàøè îòíîøåíèÿ ñ ïîòðåáèòåëÿìè è ñ òðàíçèòåðàìè íàøèõ óãëåâîäîðîäîâ íà ðûíî÷íûå, ïðîçðà÷íûå ïðèíöèïû è â äîëãîñðî÷íûå êîíòðàêòû.

Íàïîìíþ âàì, è çäåñü íàïðîòèâ ìåíÿ ñèäèò ìîé êîëëåãà, Ïðåçèäåíò Óêðàèíû, îí ýòî çíàåò òàê æå, êàê è ÿ: äî ïðîøëîãî ãîäà, ïîêà ìû ñ íèì â òðóäíîé äèñêóññèè íå ïðèíÿëè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ ðåøåíèé, ïîñòàâêè íàøèõ ýíåðãîíîñèòåëåé, ïðåæäå âñåãî ãàçà â Åâðîïó, â òå÷åíèå 15 ëåò çàâèñåëè îò òîãî, äîãîâîðÿòñÿ ëè Óêðàèíà è Ðîññèÿ ìåæäó ñîáîé ïî óñëîâèÿì è ïî öåíàì ïîñòàâîê íàøåãî ãàçà â ñàìó Óêðàèíó, à åñëè íå äîãîâîðÿòñÿ – âñå, åâðîïåéñêèå ïîòðåáèòåëè ñèäåëè áû áåç ãàçà. Òàêàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ âàñ óñòðàèâàåò? Äóìàþ, íåò. È íåñìîòðÿ íà âñå ñêàíäàëû òàì è ïðî÷åå, çàùèòó èíòåðåñîâ, áîðüáó ìíåíèé è òàê äàëåå, ìû ñìîãëè äîãîâîðèòüñÿ ñ Ïðåçèäåíòîì Þùåíêî. ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî îí ïðèíÿë îòâåòñòâåííîå, èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî ïðàâèëüíîå, àáñîëþòíî ðûíî÷íîå ðåøåíèå: ìû ïîäïèñàëè êîíòðàêòû îòäåëüíî íà ïîñòàâêó â Óêðàèíó íàøåãî ãàçà è îòäåëüíî – íà òðàíçèò â Åâðîïó íà ïÿòü ëåò âïåðåä. Ñïàñèáî íàì íóæíî ñêàçàòü, è íàì, è Óêðàèíå, çà ýòî ðåøåíèå. È çà Âàø âîïðîñ ñïàñèáî, âîïðîñ õîðîøèé.

Ëó÷øå áû ÿ îòâå÷àë ñðàçó æå íà âàøè âîïðîñû. Íàøà îöåíêà ðàñøèðåíèÿ ÍÀÒÎ íà âîñòîê. ß óæå ãîâîðèë î ãàðàíòèÿõ, êîòîðûå íàì äàâàëè è êîòîðûå ñåãîäíÿ íå ñîáëþäàþòñÿ. Âû ðàçâå ñ÷èòàåòå ýòî íîðìàëüíûì â ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ? Íó áîã ñ íèìè, ñ ýòèìè ãàðàíòèÿìè. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ äåìîêðàòèè è ðàñøèðåíèÿ ÍÀÒÎ. ÍÀÒÎ – ýòî íå óíèâåðñàëüíàÿ îðãàíèçàöèÿ â îòëè÷èå îò Îðãàíèçàöèè Îáúåäèíåííûõ Íàöèé. Ýòî ïðåæäå âñåãî âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèé áëîê – âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèé! È, êîíå÷íî, îáåñïå÷åíèå ñîáñòâåííîé áåçîïàñíîñòè – ýòî ïðåðîãàòèâà ëþáîãî ñóâåðåííîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà. Ìû ñ ýòèì è íå ñïîðèì. Ïîæàëóéñòà, ìû ïðîòèâ ýòîãî íå âîçðàæàåì. Íî ïî÷åìó îáÿçàòåëüíî íóæíî âûäâèãàòü âîåííóþ èíôðàñòðóêòóðó ê íàøèì ãðàíèöàì ïðè ðàñøèðåíèè? Âîò íà ýòî íàì ìîæåò êòî-íèáóäü îòâåòèòü? Ðàçâå ðàñøèðåíèå âîåííîé èíôðàñòðóêòóðû ñâÿçàíî ñ ïðåîäîëåíèåì ñåãîäíÿøíèõ ãëîáàëüíûõ óãðîç? Äîïóñòèì, åñëè ìû áóäåì ãîâîðèòü î ãëàâíîé èç íèõ ñåãîäíÿ – ãëàâíîé è äëÿ íàñ, è äëÿ ÑØÀ, è äëÿ Åâðîïû: ÷òî ýòî çà óãðîçà – ýòî òåððîðèçì è áîðüáà ñ íèì.

Íóæíà Ðîññèÿ â áîðüáå ñ òåððîðèçìîì? Êîíå÷íî! Íóæíà ëè Èíäèÿ â áîðüáå ñ òåððîðèçìîì? Êîíå÷íî! Íî íàñ íåò â ÍÀÒÎ, è äðóãèõ ñòðàí íåò. À âîò ðàáîòàòü ïî ýòîé ïðîáëåìàòèêå ìû ìîæåì ýôôåêòèâíî, òîëüêî îáúåäèíÿÿ óñèëèÿ. Òàê ÷òî ðàñøèðåíèå òåì áîëåå âîåííîé èíôðàñòðóêòóðû è ïðèáëèæåíèå åå ê íàøèì ãðàíèöàì è äåìîêðàòè÷åñêèé âûáîð îòäåëüíûõ ãîñóäàðñòâ ìåæäó ñîáîé íèêàê íå ñâÿçàíû. È ÿ áû ïîïðîñèë ýòè äâà ïîíÿòèÿ íå ïóòàòü.

Çíàåòå, ÿ òàê «íàêàðÿáàë» çäåñü, ÷òî óæå ñàì íå ðàçáåðó, ÷òî ÿ çàïèñàë. ß òîãäà îòâå÷ó íà òî, ÷òî ñàì ìîãó ïðî÷èòàòü, à åñëè ÿ íà ÷òî-òî íå îòâå÷ó, âû íàïîìíèòå ìíå ñâîè âîïðîñû.

×òî áóäåò ñ Êîñîâîì, ñ Ñåðáèåé? Ýòî ìîãóò çíàòü òîëüêî êîñîâàðû è ñåðáû. È äàâàéòå íå áóäåì çà íèõ ðåøàòü, êàê îíè óñòðîÿò ñâîþ æèçíü. Íå íóæíî êîð÷èòü èç ñåáÿ Ãîñïîäà Áîãà è ðåøàòü çà âñå íàðîäû âñå èõ ïðîáëåìû. Ìû ñ âàìè ìîæåì òîëüêî ñîçäàòü óñëîâèÿ è ïîìî÷ü ëþäÿì ðàçîáðàòüñÿ â ñâîèõ ïðîáëåìàõ – ñîçäàòü óñëîâèÿ, âûñòóïèòü ãàðàíòàìè îïðåäåëåííûõ äîãîâîðåííîñòåé. Íî íå íóæíî íàâÿçûâàòü èì ýòè äîãîâîðåííîñòè. Èíà÷å ìû çàãîíèì ñèòóàöèþ â òóïèê. Åñëè êòî-òî èç ó÷àñòíèêîâ ýòîãî âåñüìà ñëîæíîãî ïðîöåññà ìåæäó ýòèìè íàðîäàìè ïî÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ îñêîðáëåííûì, óíèæåííûì, ýòî áóäåò òÿíóòüñÿ âåêàìè. Ìû òîëüêî çàãîíèì ïðîáëåìó â òóïèê.

È â ÷åì çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ íàøà ïîçèöèÿ? Íàøà ïîçèöèÿ çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî ìû áóäåì ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ èìåííî ýòîãî ïðèíöèïà. È åñëè ìû óâèäèì, ÷òî îäíà èç ñòîðîí ÿâíî íå óäîâëåòâîðåíà ïðåäëàãàåìûìè ñïîñîáàìè ðàçðåøåíèÿ ñèòóàöèè, ìû òàêîå ðåøåíèå ïîääåðæèâàòü íå áóäåì.

ß íå î÷åíü ïîíÿë, ÷òî Âû èìåëè â âèäó, êîãäà ñïðîñèëè îá îïûòå íàøèõ âîåííûõ â ×å÷íå. Îïûò ìàëîïðèÿòíûé, íî áîëüøîé. Åñëè Âàñ èíòåðåñóåò â öåëîì ñèòóàöèÿ â ×å÷íå, òî ìîãó Âàì ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ñåé÷àñ òàì èçáðàí ïàðëàìåíò, èçáðàí ïðåçèäåíò, äåéñòâóåò ïðàâèòåëüñòâî. Âñå îðãàíû âëàñòè è óïðàâëåíèÿ ñôîðìèðîâàíû. Ïðèâëå÷åíû ê ðàáîòå â ðåñïóáëèêå ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ïîëèòè÷åñêèå ñèëû ×å÷íè. Äëÿ ïðèìåðà ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ÷ëåíîì ïàðëàìåíòà, äîïóñòèì, òàì, â ×å÷íå, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñåé÷àñ áûâøèé ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû ïðàâèòåëüñòâà À.Ìàñõàäîâà. È ìû ïðîâåëè öåëóþ ñåðèþ ðåøåíèé, êîòîðûå ïîçâîëèëè áûâøèì áîåâèêàì âåðíóòüñÿ íå òîëüêî ê íîðìàëüíîé, íî äàæå è ê ïîëèòè÷åñêîé æèçíè â ðåñïóáëèêå. Òàê ÷òî ìû ïðåäïî÷èòàåì ñåãîäíÿ äåéñòâîâàòü òàì ýêîíîìè÷åñêèìè è ïîëèòè÷åñêèìè ñðåäñòâàìè, ïåðåäàâ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ïî÷òè íà ñòî ïðîöåíòîâ îáåñïå÷åíèå áåçîïàñíîñòè â ðóêè ñàìîãî ÷å÷åíñêîãî íàðîäà. Ïîòîìó ÷òî îðãàíû ïðàâîïîðÿäêà, êîòîðûå òàì ñôîðìèðîâàíû, ïî÷òè íà ñòî ïðîöåíòîâ ñîñòîÿò èç ìåñòíûõ ãðàæäàí, èç òåõ, êòî ïðîæèâàåò â ×å÷íå ïîñòîÿííî, – èç ÷å÷åíöåâ.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ Ëèâàíà, òîæå íå î÷åíü ïîíÿë, ÷òî Âû èìååòå â âèäó, íî äà, êàê ïîäòâåðæäåíèå òîãî, ÷òî èçâåñòíàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ ñëîæèëàñü òàêèì îáðàçîì, êàê ÿ åå ñåé÷àñ íàðèñîâàë, îá ýòîì ãîâîðèò òàêæå íàïðàâëåíèå íàìè â Ëèâàí íàøèõ âîåííûõ ñòðîèòåëåé äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ìîñòîâ è èíôðàñòðóêòóðû, ðàçðóøåííîé â õîäå êîíôëèêòà ñ Èçðàèëåì. È ýòèõ ñòðîèòåëåé îõðàíÿëè ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ, ïîëíîñòüþ óêîìïëåêòîâàííûå âîåííîñëóæàùèìè èç ×å÷íè è ÷å÷åíöàìè ïî íàöèîíàëüíîñòè. Ìû èñõîäèëè èç òîãî, ÷òî íàøè âîåííîñëóæàùèå äîëæíû áóäóò ðàáîòàòü â ðàéîíàõ, êîòîðûå íàñåëåíû ìóñóëüìàíàìè, è åñëè êîíòèíãåíò, êîòîðûé îõðàíÿåò íàøèõ âîåííûõ, áóäåò óêîìïëåêòîâàí òîæå ìóñóëüìàíàìè – õóæå îò ýòîãî íå áóäåò. È ìû íå îøèáëèñü. Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ìåñòíîå íàñåëåíèå î÷åíü òåïëî âñòðå÷àëî íàøèõ âîåííûõ ñòðîèòåëåé.

Òåïåðü ïî ñîãëàøåíèþ â îáëàñòè ýíåðãåòèêè ñ Åâðîñîþçîì – òàê ÿ ïîíÿë âîïðîñ? Ìû óæå ìíîãîêðàòíî ãîâîðèëè, ÷òî ìû íå ïðîòèâ òîãî, ÷òîáû ñîãëàñîâàòü ïðèíöèïû íàøèõ îòíîøåíèé ñ Åâðîñîþçîì â ñôåðå ýíåðãåòèêè. Áîëåå òîãî, òå ïðèíöèïû, êîòîðûå çàëîæåíû â Õàðòèè, â îáùåì è öåëîì ïðèåìëåìû. Íî ñàìà Õàðòèÿ íàñ íå î÷åíü óñòðàèâàåò. Ïîòîìó ÷òî îíà íå òîëüêî íàìè, îíà è íàøèìè åâðîïåéñêèìè ïàðòíåðàìè íå âûïîëíÿåòñÿ. Äîñòàòî÷íî âñïîìíèòü çàêðûòûé äî ñèõ ïîð äëÿ íàñ ðûíîê ÿäåðíûõ ìàòåðèàëîâ. Åãî æå íàì íèêòî íå îòêðûë.

Åñòü è äðóãèå ìîìåíòû, íà êîòîðûõ ÿ ïðîñòî ñåé÷àñ íå õî÷ó çàîñòðÿòü âíèìàíèå, íî ïðèíöèïû ñàìè ïî ñåáå – îíè óæå èñïîëüçóþòñÿ íàìè, â òîì ÷èñëå è â ðàáîòå ñ íåìåöêèìè êîìïàíèÿìè. ß íàïîìíþ î òîé ñäåëêå, êîòîðàÿ ñîñòîÿëàñü ìåæäó «Ãàçïðîìîì» è êîìïàíèåé «ÁÀÑÔ». Ýòî, ïî ñóòè, îáìåí àêòèâàìè. Ìû è äàëüøå ãîòîâû òàê äåéñòâîâàòü. Ìû ãîòîâû. Íî â êàæäîì êîíêðåòíîì ñëó÷àå ìû äîëæíû ïîíÿòü: ÷òî ìû îòäàåì, ÷òî îòäàþò íàøè ïàðòíåðû, ïîñ÷èòàòü, ñäåëàòü íåçàâèñèìóþ ýêñïåðòíóþ ìåæäóíàðîäíóþ îöåíêó è ïðèíÿòü ðåøåíèå. Ìû ê ýòîé ðàáîòå ãîòîâû. Ìû òî æå ñàìîå ñîâñåì íåäàâíî ñäåëàëè è ñ èòàëüÿíñêèìè ïàðòíåðàìè, ñ êîìïàíèåé «ÝÍÈ». Íå òîëüêî ïîäïèñàëè ñ íèìè ñîãëàøåíèå î ïîñòàâêàõ äî 2035 ãîäà, ïî-ìîåìó, íî åùå òàì ðå÷ü èäåò è îá îáìåíå àêòèâàìè. Âîò ñåé÷àñ ìû òî æå ñàìîå, òàêîé æå âàðèàíò ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà, èçó÷àåì è ñ íàøèìè óêðàèíñêèìè äðóçüÿìè. Ýòîò ïðîöåññ èäåò.

À ñòîèò ëè «çàâîäèòü» ýòè ïðèíöèïû ïîä êðûøó âîçìîæíîãî áóäóùåãî îñíîâîïîëàãàþùåãî àêòà ìåæäó Ðîññèåé è Åâðîñîþçîì – ïî-ðàçíîìó ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü. Íî ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî íå ñòîèò, ïîòîìó ÷òî êðîìå ýíåðãåòèêè â íàøèõ âçàèìîîòíîøåíèÿõ ñ Åâðîñîþçîì åñòü è äðóãèå ñôåðû ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâà: è ñåëüñêîå õîçÿéñòâî åñòü, åñòü âûñîêèå òåõíîëîãèè, åñòü òðàíñïîðò. È âñå î÷åíü îñòðî, î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî. Ìû æå íå ìîæåì âñå ïîäðÿä çàâåñòè â îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèé àêò, êîòîðûé äîëæåí áûòü ðàìî÷íûì äîêóìåíòîì. Èëè âû õîòèòå, ÷òîáû ìû çàíåñëè òóäà òîëüêî òî, ÷òî âàì íóæíî, à òî, ÷òî íàì íóæíî, âûíåñëè çà ðàìêè? Äàâàéòå ìû áóäåì âñå-òàêè ïî-÷åñòíîìó äðóã ñ äðóãîì äèñêóòèðîâàòü è ïðèíèìàòü âçàèìîâûãîäíûå ðåøåíèÿ.

«Â 90-å ãîäû Ðîññèÿ îêàçûâàëà Èðàíó ïîìîùü â ñîçäàíèè ðàêåòíîé òåõíèêè». Ïî-ìîåìó, âîò Âû çàäàëè ìíå ýòîò âîïðîñ. «Ñåãîäíÿ èðàíöû õîòÿò îñíàñòèòü ýòè ðàêåòû ÿäåðíûìè áîåãîëîâêàìè, èìåþò ðàêåòû, êîòîðûå ìîãóò äîñòè÷ü Åâðîïû. ×òî Ðîññèÿ áóäåò äåëàòü ïî èðàíñêîé ÿäåðíîé ïðîãðàììå?» Òàê?

Íó, âî-ïåðâûõ, ó ìåíÿ íåò ñâåäåíèé, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ â 90-å ãîäû îêàçûâàëà Èðàíó ïîìîùü â ñîçäàíèè èõ ñîáñòâåííûõ ðàêåòíûõ òåõíîëîãèé. Òàì àêòèâíî î÷åíü äåéñòâîâàëè äðóãèå ñòðàíû.  òîì ÷èñëå òåõíîëîãèè øëè ïî ðàçíûì êàíàëàì. È ó íàñ åñòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâà òîìó. ß â ñâîå âðåìÿ ïåðåäàâàë èõ íàïðÿìóþ Ïðåçèäåíòó Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ. È èç Åâðîïû èäóò òåõíîëîãèè, è èç àçèàòñêèõ ñòðàí.

Òàê ÷òî Ðîññèÿ çäåñü íè ïðè ÷åì. Óâåðÿþ Âàñ. Ìåíüøå âñåãî çäåñü çàìåøàíà Ðîññèÿ. Ìåíüøå âñåãî. Åñëè âîîáùå õîòü êàê-íèáóäü çàìåøàíà. ß â ýòî âðåìÿ ðàáîòàë åùå â Ïåòåðáóðãå, íî ìû íå çàíèìàëèñü ýòèì. Ìîãó Âàñ óâåðèòü. Íî, íàâåðíîå, òàì, çíàåòå, íà óðîâíå áèçíåñà ÷òî-òî ìîãëî ïðîèñõîäèòü. Ó íàñ îáó÷àëè ñïåöèàëèñòîâ â èíñòèòóòàõ è òàê äàëåå. È ìû ïî ïðîñüáå, ïî èíôîðìàöèè íàøèõ àìåðèêàíñêèõ ïàðòíåðîâ íà ýòî æåñòêî îòðåàãèðîâàëè. Ñðàçó æå è æåñòêî. Íî âîò ðåàêöèè îò äðóãèõ íàøèõ ïàðòíåðîâ, â òîì ÷èñëå èç Åâðîïû, ìû òàêîé íå çàìåòèëè. Áîëåå òîãî, ÿ íå çíàþ, èçâåñòíî Âàì èëè íåò, äîëæíî áûòü èçâåñòíî: èç Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ äî ñèõ ïîð ïîñòóïàåò âîåííàÿ òåõíèêà è ñïåöèàëüíîå îáîðóäîâàíèå. Äî ñèõ ïîð. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîñòóïàþò èç íàëè÷èÿ â âîîðóæåííûõ ñèëàõ, èç Ïåíòàãîíà, çàï÷àñòè ê ñàìîëåòàì F-14.  Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòàõ äàæå ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó ïðîâîäèòñÿ, íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, ðàññëåäîâàíèå. Íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî ðàññëåäîâàíèå èäåò, ñ ãðàíèöû ýòè çàï÷àñòè çàáðàëè, âåðíóëè íàçàä è ÷åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ îïÿòü, ïî èìåþùèìñÿ ó ìåíÿ ñâåäåíèÿì – åñëè îíè íå òî÷íû, ïðîâåðüòå èõ, – îïÿòü íà ãðàíèöå çàäåðæàëè òå æå ñàìûå ãðóçû. Äàæå ñ ïîìåòêîé «âåùåñòâåííîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî».

Çíàåòå, ýòîò ïîòîê äåéñòâèòåëüíî òðóäíîâàòî îñòàíîâèòü. Íóæíî äåéñòâîâàòü ñîâìåñòíî.

Ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, ÷òî ó Èðàíà åñòü ðàêåòû, êîòîðûå óãðîæàþò Åâðîïå. Âû îøèáàåòåñü. Ñåãîäíÿ ó Èðàíà – âîò çäåñü åñòü ãîñïîäèí Ãåéòñ, êîòîðûé íàâåðíÿêà çíàåò ýòó èíôîðìàöèþ òî÷íåå, ÷åì ÿ, è íàø Ìèíèñòð îáîðîíû – ó Èðàíà ñåãîäíÿ åñòü ðàêåòû ñ äàëüíîñòüþ 2000 êèëîìåòðîâ.

Ñ.ÈÂÀÍÎÂ: 1600–1700 êèëîìåòðîâ.

Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: 1600–1700 êèëîìåòðîâ. Âñåãî. Íó ïîñ÷èòàéòå, ñêîëüêî êèëîìåòðîâ îò ãðàíèöû Èðàíà äî Ìþíõåíà. Íåò ó Èðàíà òàêèõ ðàêåò. Îíè òîëüêî ïëàíèðóþò ðàçðàáîòàòü íà 2400. È òî íåèçâåñòíî, ñìîãóò ëè îíè ýòî ñäåëàòü òåõíîëîãè÷åñêè. À âîò óæå 4, 5, 6 òûñÿ÷ êèëîìåòðîâ – ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíà ïðîñòî äðóãàÿ ýêîíîìèêà äàæå. Òàê ÷òî ýòî ìàëîâåðîÿòíî âîîáùå. È Èðàí Åâðîïå íå óãðîæàåò. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ òîãî, ÷òî îíè ñîáèðàþòñÿ ðàçìåñòèòü ÿäåðíûå çàðÿäû – ó íàñ íåò òàêèõ ñâåäåíèé, ÿäåðíûå áîåãîëîâêè ïîñòàâèòü – ó íàñ òàêèõ ñâåäåíèé íåò.

Âîò Ñåâåðíàÿ Êîðåÿ ïðîèçâåëà èñïûòàíèÿ ÿäåðíîãî âçðûâíîãî óñòðîéñòâà. Èðàíöû íàì âñå âðåìÿ ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî èõ ÿäåðíàÿ ïðîãðàììà íîñèò ìèðíûé õàðàêòåð. Íî ÿ ñ Âàìè ñîãëàñåí, ñîãëàñåí â òîì, ÷òî ó ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ñîîáùåñòâà åñòü îçàáî÷åííîñòè ïî ïîâîäó õàðàêòåðà è êà÷åñòâà ÿäåðíûõ ïðîãðàìì Èðàíà. È ãîñïîäèí ýëü-Áàðàäåé íåäàâíî ñôîðìóëèðîâàë ýòè îçàáî÷åííîñòè, ïî-ìîåìó, â øåñòè èëè ñåìè ïóíêòàõ. È çäåñü ÿ ñ Âàìè ñîëèäàðåí. È ìíå íåïîíÿòíî, ïî÷åìó èðàíñêàÿ ñòîðîíà äî ñèõ ïîð íå îòðåàãèðîâàëà ïîçèòèâíûì è êîíñòðóêòèâíûì îáðàçîì íà ýòè îçàáî÷åííîñòè è ïðåäëîæåíèÿ ýëü-Áàðàäåÿ – ñíÿòü ýòè îçàáî÷åííîñòè. Ìíå ýòî òîæå íåïîíÿòíî – òàê æå, êàê è Âàì.

×òî ìû áóäåì äåëàòü? ß äóìàþ, ÷òî âìåñòå ìû äîëæíû íàáðàòüñÿ òåðïåíèÿ è àêêóðàòíî ðàáîòàòü. Äà, ïðàâèëüíî, ñîçäàâàÿ è ñòèìóëû, è ïîêàçûâàÿ èðàíñêîìó ðóêîâîäñòâó, ÷òî ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî ñ ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ñîîáùåñòâîì ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå, ÷åì êîíôðîíòàöèÿ.

Äà, îïÿòü âîò ïî ïîñòàâêàì îðóæèÿ â Èðàí. Âû çíàåòå, ðàçãîâîðîâ áîëüøå, ÷åì ýòèõ ïîñòàâîê. Ó íàñ ÂÒÑ, âîåííî-òåõíè÷åñêîå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî, ñ Èðàíîì ìèíèìàëüíîå. Ïðîñòî ìèíèìàëüíîå. Òàì îíî èñ÷èñëÿåòñÿ ÿ íå çíàþ êàêèìè öèôðàìè. Âîîáùå ìû â ðåãèîí Áëèæíåãî Âîñòîêà â ðàçû ïîñòàâëÿåì âîîðóæåíèÿ ìåíüøå, ÷åì äðóãèå ñòðàíû, è â òîì ÷èñëå Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû. Ïðîñòî â ðàçû – íèêàêîãî ñðàâíåíèÿ íåò. Ìû ïîñòàâèëè òóäà ñèñòåìû ïðîòèâîâîçäóøíîé îáîðîíû íåäàâíî – ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî òàê – ñðåäíåãî ðàäèóñà äåéñòâèÿ – îò 30 äî 50 êèëîìåòðîâ ïðèìåðíî. Ýòî ïðàâäà. Çà÷åì ìû ýòî ñäåëàëè? ß ìîãó îáúÿñíèòü. Ìû ñäåëàëè ýòî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû Èðàí íå ÷óâñòâîâàë ñåáÿ çàãíàííûì â óãîë. Íå ÷óâñòâîâàë, ÷òî îí íàõîäèòñÿ â êàêîì-òî âðàæäåáíîì îêðóæåíèè, è ïîíèìàë, ÷òî ó íåãî åñòü êàíàë äëÿ îáùåíèÿ, ïîíèìàë, ÷òî ó íåãî åñòü äðóçüÿ, êîòîðûì ìîæíî äîâåðÿòü. Ìû î÷åíü ðàññ÷èòûâàåì íà òî, ÷òî è èðàíñêàÿ ñòîðîíà ïîéìåò è óñëûøèò íàøè ñèãíàëû.

Ïî ïîâîäó íàøåãî îðóæèÿ â Ëèâàíå è â ñåêòîðå Ãàçà.  ñåêòîðå Ãàçà ÿ âîîáùå íå ñëûøàë î òîì, ÷òî ïðèñóòñòâóåò íàøå îðóæèå. ß íå âèäåë òàêîãî. Íó àâòîìàò Êàëàøíèêîâà – âîîáùå àâòîìàò ñàìîé ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîé ñèñòåìû ñòðåëêîâîãî îðóæèÿ â ìèðå. Îí, íàâåðíîå, âåçäå åñòü. Íàâåðíîå, è â Ãåðìàíèè íà âîîðóæåíèè ñòîÿò åùå àâòîìàòû Êàëàøíèêîâà, âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, åùå íå óíè÷òîæåíû – ñòî ïðîöåíòîâ.

 Ëèâàíå äà. Òàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî áûëè çàìå÷åíû ÿùèêè èç-ïîä íàøèõ ïðîòèâîòàíêîâûõ ñèñòåì. Ýòî ïðàâäà. Ìíå îá ýòîì íàøè èçðàèëüñêèå ïàðòíåðû ñðàçó æå ñîîáùèëè. Ìû ïðîâåëè òùàòåëüíîå ðàññëåäîâàíèå òîãî, ÷òî òàì ïðîèñõîäèëî. È óñòàíîâèëè, ÷òî ýòè ñèñòåìû îñòàëèñü íà òåððèòîðèè Ëèâàíà ïîñëå òîãî, êàê ñ íåãî óøëà ñèðèéñêàÿ àðìèÿ. Ìû ïðîâåëè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùóþ ðàáîòó ñ ñèðèéñêèìè ïàðòíåðàìè è îáóñëîâèëè íàøå äàëüíåéøåå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî â îáëàñòè âîåííî-òåõíè÷åñêîãî âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ ñ Ñèðèåé íåîáõîäèìûìè óñëîâèÿìè, êîòîðûå èñêëþ÷èëè áû âîçìîæíîñòü ïîïàäàíèÿ îðóæèÿ â ÷üè áû òî íè áûëî ðóêè, êðîìå òåõ, äëÿ êîãî îíî ïðåäíàçíà÷åíî. Òàêàÿ ñèñòåìà âûðàáîòàíà.  òîì ÷èñëå ìû äîãîâîðèëèñü î ñèñòåìå âîçìîæíûõ èíñïåêöèé íà ñêëàäàõ â ëþáîå óäîáíîå âðåìÿ äëÿ ðîññèéñêèõ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ. Íà ñêëàäàõ ïîñëå ïîñòàâîê íàøèõ ñèñòåì â Ñèðèþ.

«ÑØÀ íå ðàçðàáàòûâàþò ñòðàòåãè÷åñêîå îðóæèå, à Ðîññèÿ ðàçðàáàòûâàåò. Íå áóäåò ëè Ðîññèÿ ïðèìåíÿòü ñèëó áåç ñàíêöèé ÎÎÍ â áóäóùåì? Ðîññèÿ ðàçðàáàòûâàåò ñèñòåìû ñòðàòåãè÷åñêîãî îðóæèÿ».

Ïðåêðàñíûé âîïðîñ, çàìå÷àòåëüíûé! ß Âàì î÷åíü çà íåãî áëàãîäàðåí. Ýòî äàåò ìíå âîçìîæíîñòü ïîêàçàòü ñóòü ïðîèñõîäÿùèõ ñîáûòèé. Âåäü ÷åìó ìû çà ïîñëåäíèå äåñÿòèëåòèÿ îáÿçàíû, åñëè ìû ãîâîðèì î òîì, ÷òî ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèå áûëî, à áîëüøîé âîéíû âñå-òàêè íå ïðîèçîøëî â ïåðèîä ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèÿ äâóõ ñâåðõäåðæàâ è äâóõ ñèñòåì? Ìû îáÿçàíû áàëàíñó ñèë ìåæäó äâóìÿ ýòèìè ñàìûìè ñóïåðäåðæàâàìè. Áûë áàëàíñ è ñòðàõ âçàèìíîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ. È îäíà ñòîðîíà áîÿëàñü øàã ñòóïèòü ëèøíèé áåç òîãî, ÷òîáû íå ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ ñ äðóãîé â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ. È ýòî áûë õðóïêèé ìèð, êîíå÷íî, è ñòðàøíîâàòûé. Íî îí áûë äîñòàòî÷íî íàäåæíûì, êàê âûÿñíÿåòñÿ ñåãîäíÿ. Ñåãîäíÿ îí, îêàçûâàåòñÿ, è íå òàêîé óæ íàäåæíûé.

Äà, Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû íå ðàçðàáàòûâàþò ÿêîáû íàñòóïàòåëüíîãî îðóæèÿ. Âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, îáùåñòâåííîñòè îá ýòîì íåèçâåñòíî. Õîòÿ íàâåðíÿêà ðàçðàáàòûâàþò. Íî ìû äàæå ñåé÷àñ ñïðàøèâàòü îá ýòîì íå áóäåì. Ìû çíàåì, ÷òî ðàçðàáîòêè èäóò. Íî ñäåëàåì âèä, ÷òî ìû îá ýòîì íå çíàåì: íå ðàçðàáàòûâàþò. Íî ÷òî ìû çíàåì? Ýòî òî, ÷òî â Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòàõ àêòèâíî ðàçðàáàòûâàåòñÿ è óæå âíåäðÿåòñÿ ñèñòåìà ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîé îáîðîíû. Äà, ñåãîäíÿ îíà íåýôôåêòèâíà, è ìû òî÷íî íå çíàåì, áóäåò ëè îíà âîîáùå êîãäà-íèáóäü ýôôåêòèâíîé. Íî òåîðåòè÷åñêè îíà âåäü äëÿ ýòîãî è ñîçäàåòñÿ. Çíà÷èò, îïÿòü æå ãèïîòåòè÷åñêè ìû èñõîäèì èç òîãî, ÷òî êîãäà-òî íàñòóïèò ìîìåíò, êîãäà âîçìîæíàÿ óãðîçà ñî ñòîðîíû íàøèõ ÿäåðíûõ ñèë áóäåò ïîëíîñòüþ íåéòðàëèçîâàíà. Ñåãîäíÿøíèõ ÿäåðíûõ ñèë Ðîññèè. À åñëè ýòî òàê, òî ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî áàëàíñ áóäåò àáñîëþòíî íàðóøåí è ÷òî ó îäíîé èç ñòîðîí âîçíèêíåò îùóùåíèå ïîëíîé áåçîïàñíîñòè, à çíà÷èò, ýòî ðàçâÿçûâàåò åé ðóêè íå òîëüêî â ëîêàëüíûõ, à, âîçìîæíî, óæå è â ãëîáàëüíûõ êîíôëèêòàõ.

Ìû æå ñ âàìè ñåé÷àñ äèñêóòèðóåì. ß íå õî÷ó íèêîãî ïîäîçðåâàòü â êàêîé-òî àãðåññèâíîñòè. Íî ñèñòåìà îòíîøåíèé – ýòî òàê æå, êàê ìàòåìàòèêà. Îíà íå èìååò ëè÷íîãî èçìåðåíèÿ. È ìû äîëæíû, êîíå÷íî, íà ýòî ðåàãèðîâàòü. Êàê? Èëè òàê æå, êàê âû, è ñòðîèòü ìíîãîìèëëèàðäíóþ ïðîòèâîðàêåòíóþ ñèñòåìó, ñèñòåìó ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîé îáîðîíû, ëèáî, èìåÿ â âèäó íàøè ñåãîäíÿøíèå âîçìîæíîñòè – ýêîíîìè÷åñêèå, ôèíàíñîâûå, – îòâåòèòü àññèìåòðè÷íî. ×òîáû âñå ïîíÿëè, ÷òî äà, ñèñòåìà ïðîòèâîðàêåòíîé îáîðîíû åñòü, íî îíà â îòíîøåíèè Ðîññèè áåññìûñëåííà, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó íàñ åñòü òàêîå îðóæèå, êîòîðîå åå ëåãêî ïðåîäîëåâàåò. Âîò ìû ïî ýòîìó ïóòè è ïîéäåì. Ýòî äåøåâëå äëÿ íàñ. Íî ýòî íèêàê íå íàïðàâëåíî ïðîòèâ ñàìèõ Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ.

ß ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñåí, åñëè Âû ãîâîðèòå, ÷òî ñèñòåìà ÏÐÎ íå íàïðàâëåíà ïðîòèâ íàñ, òî è íàøå íîâîå îðóæèå íå íàïðàâëåíî ïðîòèâ âàñ. È ÿ ïîëíîñòüþ çäåñü ñîãëàñåí ñ ìîèì êîëëåãîé è äðóãîì – ÿ, çíàåòå, íå ïîáîþñü ýòîãî ñëîâà, ïðè âñåõ ðàçíîãëàñèÿõ ÿ ñ÷èòàþ Ïðåçèäåíòà Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ ñâîèì äðóãîì. Îí ïîðÿäî÷íûé ÷åëîâåê, ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî íà íåãî òàì âñåõ ñîáàê ñåãîäíÿ ìîãóò ïîâåñèòü â Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòàõ çà âñå, ÷òî äåëàåòñÿ è íà ìåæäóíàðîäíîé àðåíå, è âíóòðè. Íî ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî ýòî ïîðÿäî÷íûé ÷åëîâåê, è ñ íèì ìîæíî ðàçãîâàðèâàòü è äîãîâàðèâàòüñÿ. Íó òàê âîò, ìû êîãäà ñ íèì ãîâîðèì, îí ãîâîðèò: «ß èñõîæó èç òîãî, ÷òî Ðîññèÿ è ÑØÀ íèêîãäà óæå íå áóäóò ïðîòèâíèêàìè è âðàãàìè». ß ñ íèì ñîãëàñåí. Íî ïîâòîðÿþ åùå ðàç: âîò ýòà ñèììåòðèÿ è àñèììåòðèÿ – çäåñü íåò íè÷åãî ëè÷íîãî. Ýòî ïðîñòî ðàñ÷åò.

Òåïåðü ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, áóäåò ëè Ðîññèÿ ïðèìåíÿòü âîåííóþ ñèëó áåç ñàíêöèé ÎÎÍ. Ìû áóäåì äåéñòâîâàòü âñåãäà ñòðîãî â ðàìêàõ ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ïðàâà. Ìîå áàçîâîå îáðàçîâàíèå âñå-òàêè þðèäè÷åñêîå, è ÿ ïîçâîëþ ñåáå íàïîìíèòü – è ñåáå, è ìîèì êîëëåãàì, – ÷òî â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ Óñòàâîì ÎÎÍ â ñëó÷àå ïðîâåäåíèÿ ìèðîòâîð÷åñêèõ îïåðàöèé íóæíû ñàíêöèè Îðãàíèçàöèè Îáúåäèíåííûõ Íàöèé, Ñîâåòà Áåçîïàñíîñòè ÎÎÍ.  ñëó÷àå ïðîâåäåíèÿ ìèðîòâîð÷åñêèõ îïåðàöèé. Íî â Óñòàâå ÎÎÍ åñòü è ñòàòüÿ î ïðàâå íà ñàìîîáîðîíó. È çäåñü íèêàêèõ ñàíêöèé óæå íå íóæíî.

Òàê. ×òî ÿ çàáûë?

ÂÎÏÐÎÑ:  ìîåì âîïðîñå ðå÷ü øëà î ìíîãîïîëÿðíîñòè â ñàìîé Ðîññèè êàê òàêîâîé è î òîì, ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ îòíîøåíèÿ ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ñîîáùåñòâà â îòíîøåíèè Ðîññèè, åñëè îíà íå ñîáëþäàåò ýòè ïðèíöèïû: óáèéñòâà æóðíàëèñòîâ, ñòðàõè, áîÿçíü, îòñóòñòâèå ñâîáîäû, íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûå îðãàíèçàöèè.

Â.ÏÓÒÈÍ: ß äâà ñëîâà ñêàæó. Òàì áûë äðóãîé êàêîé-òî âîïðîñ, íà ýòîò ÿ â ïðèíöèïå óæå îòâå÷àë, êîãäà ãîâîðèë î ñîñòàâå ðîññèéñêîãî ïàðëàìåíòà. Ïîñìîòðèòå, êòî òàì ïðåäñòàâëåí è êàêèå ïîëèòè÷åñêèå âçãëÿäû ó òåõ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå çàíèìàþò ëèäèðóþùèå ïîçèöèè â ïàðëàìåíòå, ëåãèòèìíûå ïàðòèè. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèé, òî îíè àêòèâíî ðàáîòàþò â Ðîññèè. Äà, ìû ââåëè íîâóþ ñèñòåìó èõ ðåãèñòðàöèè. Îíà ìàëî ÷åì îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ñèñòåì ðåãèñòðàöèè â äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ. È íèêàêèõ çàìå÷àíèé îò ñàìèõ íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ îðãàíèçàöèé ìû ïîêà íå âèäåëè. Ìû ïðàêòè÷åñêè íèêîìó íå îòêàçàëè â ðåãèñòðàöèè. Òàì åñòü äâà-òðè ñëó÷àÿ ïî ÷èñòî ôîðìàëüíûì óñëîâèÿì, è ýòè íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûå îðãàíèçàöèè ðàáîòàþò íàä òåì, ÷òîáû èñïðàâèòü êàêèå-òî ïîëîæåíèÿ óñòàâà è òàê äàëåå. Ïî ñóáñòàíòèâíûì, ñóùíîñòíûì âîïðîñàì íèêîìó íå îòêàçàíî. Âñå ñàìûì àêòèâíûìè îáðàçîì òðóäÿòñÿ è áóäóò òðóäèòüñÿ äàëüøå.

×òî íàñ áåñïîêîèò? ß ìîãó ñêàçàòü è äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî ïîíÿòíî äëÿ âñåõ: âîò êîãäà ýòè íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûå îðãàíèçàöèè ôèíàíñèðóþòñÿ, ïî ñóòè, èíîñòðàííûìè ïðàâèòåëüñòâàìè, òî ìû ðàññìàòðèâàåì ýòî êàê èíñòðóìåíò èíîñòðàííûõ ãîñóäàðñòâ â ïðîâåäåíèè ïîëèòèêè â îòíîøåíèè íàøåé ñòðàíû. Ýòî ïåðâîå. È âòîðîå. Âî âñåõ ñòðàíàõ ñóùåñòâóþò îïðåäåëåííûå ïðàâèëà ôèíàíñèðîâàíèÿ, ñêàæåì, èçáèðàòåëüíûõ êàìïàíèé. ×åðåç íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûå îðãàíèçàöèè èäåò ôèíàíñèðîâàíèå îò ïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ èñòî÷íèêîâ äðóãèõ ñòðàí, â òîì ÷èñëå è â ðàìêàõ ïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûõ êàìïàíèé. Íó êóäà ýòî ãîäèòñÿ? Ýòî ÷òî, íîðìàëüíàÿ äåìîêðàòèÿ, ÷òî ëè? Ýòî ñêðûòîå ôèíàíñèðîâàíèå. Ñêðûòîå îò îáùåñòâà. ×åãî æå çäåñü äåìîêðàòè÷íîãî? Ìîæåòå Âû ìíå ñêàçàòü? Íåò! Íå ìîæåòå. È íå ñêàæåòå íèêîãäà. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî íå äåìîêðàòèÿ, à ïðîñòî âëèÿíèå îäíîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà íà äðóãîå.

Íî ìû çàèíòåðåñîâàíû â òîì, ÷òîáû ðàçâèâàëîñü ãðàæäàíñêîå îáùåñòâî â ñàìîé Ðîññèè, ÷òîáû îíî ðóãàëî âëàñòè, êðèòèêîâàëî, ïîìîãàëî âëàñòè îïðåäåëÿòü ñâîè ñîáñòâåííûå îøèáêè, êîððåêòèðîâàòü ñâîþ ïîëèòèêó â èíòåðåñàõ ëþäåé. Â ýòîì ìû, áåçóñëîâíî, çàèíòåðåñîâàíû, è ìû áóäåì ïîääåðæèâàòü ãðàæäàíñêîå îáùåñòâî è íåïðàâèòåëüñòâåííûå îðãàíèçàöèè.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ ñòðàõîâ òàì è òàê äàëåå. Çíàåòå, ó íàñ ìåíüøå ñòðàõîâ ñåãîäíÿ, ÷åì âî ìíîãèõ äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ. Ïîòîìó ÷òî çà ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ìû êàðäèíàëüíî èçìåíèëè ñèòóàöèþ â ñôåðå ýêîíîìèêè è áëàãîñîñòîÿíèÿ ãðàæäàí. Ó íàñ åùå î÷åíü ìíîãî ïðîáëåì. È ó íàñ î÷åíü ìíîãî íåðåøåííûõ ïðîáëåì.  òîì ÷èñëå ïðîáëåì, ñâÿçàííûõ ñ áåäíîñòüþ. È âîò ÿ Âàì ñêàæó, ÷òî ñòðàõè-òî â îñíîâíîì èñõîäÿò îòñþäà.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ æóðíàëèñòîâ, òî äà, ýòî áîëüøàÿ ñëîæíàÿ ïðîáëåìà. È æóðíàëèñòû ãèáíóò íå òîëüêî, êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ, ó íàñ, â Ðîññèè, íî è â äðóãèõ ñòðàíàõ. Áîëüøå âñåãî æóðíàëèñòîâ ïîãèáëî ãäå? Âû æå ñïåöèàëèñò, ìîæåòå, íàâåðíîå, ñêàçàòü, â êàêîé ñòðàíå áîëüøå âñåãî ïîãèáëî æóðíàëèñòîâ çà ïîñëåäíèå, ñêàæåì, ãîä-ïîëòîðà? Â Èðàêå áîëüøå âñåãî ïîãèáëî æóðíàëèñòîâ.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ òðàãåäèé â íàøåé ñòðàíå, ìû, áåçóñëîâíî, áóäåì ñàìûì òùàòåëüíûì îáðàçîì áîðîòüñÿ ñ ýòèìè ÿâëåíèÿìè è æåñòêî êàðàòü âñåõ ïðåñòóïíèêîâ, êîòîðûå ïûòàþòñÿ ïîäîðâàòü è äîâåðèå ê Ðîññèè è ðàñøàòàòü íàøó ïîëèòè÷åñêóþ ñèñòåìó.

Ñïàñèáî âàì çà âíèìàíèå.
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Ïî÷åìó Ïóòèí, êîòîðûé ðàíüøå íèêîãäà íå ó÷àñòâîâàë â ìþíõåíñêèõ ñàììèòàõ ïî âîïðîñàì ïîëèòèêè áåçîïàñíîñòè, íåîæèäàííî ïîëåòåë 10 ôåâðàëÿ â Ìþíõåí è âûñòóïèë ñ ðå÷üþ, êîòîðóþ áûâøèé òàì æå ñåíàòîð ÑØÀ Ìàêêåéí íàçâàë «íåáûâàëî àãðåññèâíîé ñî âðåìåí õîëîäíîé âîéíû»?

Ïðàâäà ëè, ÷òî â ýòîé ðå÷è áûëî ÷óòü ëè íå ïðîâîçãëàøåíî íà÷àëî õîëîäíîé âîéíû – 2? Çà÷åì ýòî íóæíî Ðîññèè?


Îäíè àíàëèòèêè (êîòîðûõ, âïðî÷åì, â Ìþíõåíå íå áûëî) âèäÿò â ýòîé ðå÷è ïðîñòî «âûáðîñ àäðåíàëèíà», âñïëåñê ïðåçèäåíòñêèõ ýìîöèé. Íó äîñòàëè ñâîåé êðèòèêîé, ñâîèìè íàïàäêàìè íà Ðîññèþ – âîò è ïîëó÷èëè «àñèììåòðè÷íóþ îáðàòêó»!

Äðóãèå àíàëèòèêè (êîòîðûõ, ïðàâäà, òîæå â Ìþíõåíå íå áûëî) âèäÿò òóò, íàîáîðîò, òîíêèé ïîëèòè÷åñêèé ðàñ÷åò, ïðàâäà, íå ñëèøêîì óòî÷íÿþò êàêîé.

Îäíè àíàëèòèêè ïðîâîçãëàøàþò íà÷àëî «ãëîáàëüíîãî ïîõîëîäàíèÿ» â îòíîøåíèÿõ ÐÔ – Çàïàä. Äðóãèå ñ÷èòàþò, ÷òî ïîõîëîäàíèå óæå äàâíî èäåò. Òðåòüè âîîáùå ïðèçûâàþò íå ïðèäàâàòü íèêàêîãî âåëèêîãî çíà÷åíèÿ âñåé ðèòîðèêå ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí…

Ìíîãîïîëÿðíûé àíàëèç! ×òî æ, ïîïðîáóþ è ÿ âíåñòè ñâîþ ñêðîìíóþ ëåïòó. Ïðåæäå âñåãî – çà÷åì Ïóòèí ïðîèçíåñ ýòó ðå÷ü? Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ôîðìàëüíûé îòâåò î÷åâèäåí. Âûçîâ – è îòâåò. Âûçîâ áûë áðîøåí, â ÷àñòíîñòè, Ðîáåðòîì Ãåéòñîì, êîòîðûé 7 ôåâðàëÿ îáúÿñíèë â êîíãðåññå, ÷òî «íàì íåîáõîäèì ïîëíûé íàáîð ñðåäñòâ âåäåíèÿ âîéíû, âêëþ÷àþùèé <…> íàçåìíûå ñèëû, ñïîñîáíûå ñðàæàòüñÿ ñ áîëüøèìè ðåãóëÿðíûìè àðìèÿìè. Ìû íå çíàåì, êàêèå èçìåíåíèÿ ïðîèçîéäóò â òàêèõ ñòðàíàõ, êàê Ðîññèÿ, Êèòàé, Ñåâåðíàÿ Êîðåÿ, Èðàí è äðóãèå».


Íå çíàþ, êàê íà ýòî îòðåàãèðîâàëè â Êèòàå, íî âîò îòâåò «êëåâåòíèêàì Ðîññèè» ïîñëåäîâàë 10 ôåâðàëÿ. ßñíî, ýòî áûëà ðåàêöèÿ íå òîëüêî íà ñëîâà Ãåéòñà, íî è íà äåëà – â ÷àñòíîñòè ðàçìåùåíèå íîâûõ àìåðèêàíñêèõ ñðåäñòâ ñëåæåíèÿ áëèç ãðàíèö ÐÔ. Êðîìå òîãî, âûñêàçûâàíèå ìèíèñòðà ñòàëî ïðîñòî ïîñëåäíåé êàïëåé – «îáìåí ëþáåçíîñòÿìè» ñ Ìîñêâîé èäåò ïî íàðàñòàþùåé óæå íåñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ. Âîò èìåííî â ýòîé ëîãèêå íàðàñòàþùåé êîíôðîíòàöèè è ïðîçâó÷àëà ðå÷ü Ïóòèíà.

×òî êàñàåòñÿ ñóùåñòâà ðå÷è Ïóòèíà, òî, ðàçóìååòñÿ, ìîæíî ïîñïîðèòü ñî ìíîãèìè åå ïîëîæåíèÿìè – â ïðåäåëàõ, âîçìîæíûõ äëÿ «ñïîðà» ñ ïðåçèäåíòîì.

«Îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð»… Òàê ëè óæ «îäíîïîëÿðåí»? ÑØÀ ÿâíî ñóòóëÿòñÿ ïîä òÿæåñòüþ ñâîèõ âíóòðåííèõ ïðîáëåì è ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îáÿçàòåëüñòâ. «Àòëàíòû äåðæàò íåáî íà êàìåííûõ ïëå÷àõ», íî øàòàþòñÿ èç ñòîðîíû â ñòîðîíó. Âëèÿíèå «ìèðîâîãî æàíäàðìà» ñåãîäíÿ êóäà ìåíüøå, ÷åì, ñêàæåì, 10–15 ëåò íàçàä. ×òî æ, ïî áåñïîùàäíîé ëîãèêå ìèðîâîé ïîëèòèêè «ïàäàþùåãî – òîëêíè!», ÷åì ìåíüøå ðåàëüíîå âëèÿíèå ÑØÀ, òåì ÷àùå èäóò ðàçãîâîðû î íåäîïóñòèìîñòè ýòîãî âëèÿíèÿ.

Âìåñòå ñ òåì âïîëíå ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ÑØÀ íå õîòÿò ñäàâàòü ïîçèöèè, êàê óìåþò, áüþòñÿ çà ñîõðàíåíèå ðîëè ñâåðõäåðæàâû. Äàëåêî íå âñå ó íèõ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, êàê è ó ÐÔ äàëåêî íå âñå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ â ÑÍÃ. Íî âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, ãîâîðèòü îá «îäíîïîëÿðíîì ìèðå» íå ïðèõîäèòñÿ, êàê íå ïðèõîäèòñÿ ãîâîðèòü è îá îäíîïîëÿðíîì ÑÍÃ.


Âûçîâ áûë áðîøåí Ðîáåðòîì Ãåéòñîì
Òîò æå Êèòàé – ðàçâå ïëÿøåò ïîä äóäêó ÑØÀ? À Ðîññèÿ? Âîí êàêèå çàÿâëåíèÿ ëåãêî äåëàþòñÿ! È ÷òî æå â îòâåò îò ñâåðõäåðæàâû? «Íî ñóðîâî áðîâè ìû íàõìóðèì»?.. Äà íåò. Äîâîëüíî êèñëî óëûáíóëèñü – è, â îáùåì, ñúåëè. Òîò æå Ãåéòñ îáúÿñíèë, ÷òî íå íóæíà èì õîëîäíàÿ âîéíà, íè÷åãî ïðîòèâ ÐÔ íå èìåþò. Âåñüìà ïîõîæå íà êîíôëèêòû ñàìîé Ðîññèè ñ Óêðàèíîé, Áåëîðóññèåé… Òàêèå íûí÷å âðåìåíà, êàê âûðàæàåòñÿ èçâåñòíûé âåäóùèé. Áóäü ó òåáÿ ðàêåòíî-ÿäåðíûå êóëàêè õîòü â äåñÿòü ðàç áîëüøå, à ìàõàòü èìè ïîä íîñîì ó ñîáåñåäíèêà íå î÷åíü êàê-òî ïðèíÿòî. 100 ëåò íàçàä – äåëî äðóãîå. «Ãîâîðè ìÿãêî, íî äåðæè áîëüøóþ äóáèíêó» (ïðåçèäåíò Òåîäîð Ðóçâåëüò). Ñåé÷àñ ñ «áîëüøèìè äóáèíêàìè» äåëî îáñòîèò êóäà êàê àêêóðàòíåå.

Ýòî, êñòàòè, ê âîïðîñó î äðóãîì òåçèñå Ïóòèíà – ÷òî ñîâðåìåííûé ìèð áîëåå îïàñåí, ÷åì ïðåæíèé, ìèð õîëîäíîé âîéíû. Òàê ëè? Äà, êîíå÷íî, Èðàê, äî òîãî – Ñåðáèÿ. Íî òàê èëè èíà÷å, à âñå-òàêè õîòÿ áû ïðèêðûëèñü ôèãîâûì ëèñòêîì êàêèõ-òî ðåøåíèé ÎÎÍ èëè êàê ìèíèìóì ÍÀÒÎ. Âî âðåìåíà õîëîäíîé âîéíû âî Âüåòíàìå, Àíãîëå, Àôãàíèñòàíå, à òîãî ðàíüøå â Êîðåå èëè Àëæèðå íèêòî íè÷åì íå ïðèêðûâàëñÿ. Äà è âîåâàëè íå â ïðèìåð ñâèðåïåå… Ñëîâîì, è òóò òà æå ëîãèêà: ÷åì ìåíüøå âîéí â ðåàëüíîñòè, òåì ãðîì÷å ðàçãîâîðû îá îïàñíîñòè ýòèõ âîéí. ×òî æ, íàâåðíîå, òàê è äâèæåòñÿ ïðîãðåññ.

Íî äåëî, â êîíöå êîíöîâ, íå â êîíêðåòíîì ñîäåðæàíèè ðå÷è. Òåì áîëåå íè÷åãî ïðèíöèïèàëüíî íîâîãî Ïóòèí íå ñêàçàë – íå÷òî ïîäîáíîå íå ðàç îçâó÷èâàë òîò æå Ñåðãåé Èâàíîâ, êîòîðûé íà ñåé ðàç â Ìþíõåíå òîæå áûë, íî íå íà ïåðâûõ ðîëÿõ.

Èòàê, Ïóòèí îòâåòèë íà àìåðèêàíñêóþ ðèòîðèêó. È òîëüêî-òî? Âñå ñâîäèòñÿ ê êëàññè÷åñêîìó «à òû êòî òàêîé?!».

Íåò, ðàçóìååòñÿ, íåò.

Âåäü ñðàçó èç Ìþíõåíà Ïóòèí ïîëåòåë â Ñàóäîâñêóþ Àðàâèþ, â Êàòàð. À òàì çàçâó÷àëè óæå áîëåå ïðàêòè÷åñêèå íîòû, íàïðèìåð î âîçìîæíîñòè «ãàçîâîãî êàðòåëÿ», ñîãëàøåíèÿ òèïà ÎÏÅÊ, êîòîðîå (ñîãëàøåíèå) â èäåàëå ìîãëî áû äèêòîâàòü ñâîè âûñîêèå öåíû ïîòðåáèòåëÿì ãàçà.

Êîíå÷íî, îçâó÷èòü òàêóþ èäåþ êóäà ñëîæíåå, ÷åì ðåàëèçîâàòü.

Ãàç íå íåôòü. Êîíòðàêòû ñòàðàþòñÿ çàêëþ÷àòü íà äëèòåëüíûå ñðîêè, ïåðåñìàòðèâàòü èõ óñëîâèÿ êóäà ñëîæíåå. Äàëåå – ñîãëàñîâàòü èíòåðåñû ÐÔ è àðàáñêèõ ñòðàí êðàéíå ñëîæíî – êñòàòè, ýòî îäíà èç ïðè÷èí, ïî êîòîðûì Ðîññèÿ íå âõîäèò â ÎÏÅÊ. Ìåæäó ñòðàíàìè Áëèæíåãî Âîñòîêà ñâîè îñòðåéøèå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ. Ãëàâíûé âðàã äëÿ Ñàóäîâñêîé Àðàâèè íà ñàìîì-òî äåëå íå Èçðàèëü (ïðîñòî æóïåë), íå ÑØÀ, à Èðàí.


Ñàìàÿ ñòðàøíàÿ áîðüáà, êàê èçâåñòíî, – âíóòðèâèäîâàÿ, áîðüáà çà äîìèíèðîâàíèå â èñëàìñêîì ìèðå, áîðüáà ìåæäó ñóííèòàìè è øèèòàìè (ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ íå ìåíåå îñòðûå, ÷åì ìåæäó êàòîëèêàìè è ïðîòåñòàíòàìè â XVI–XVII âåêàõ â Åâðîïå). Íàêîíåö, êàê áû â Êàòàðå è Ñàóäîâñêîé Àðàâèè íè óëûáàëèñü ïðåçèäåíòó Ðîññèè, êàêèìè áû îðäåíàìè íè óãîùàëè, à âñå-òàêè «ñòàðûé äðóã ëó÷øå íîâûõ äâóõ». À ñòàðûé äðóã Ñàóäîâñêîé Àìåðèêè, êàê íè êðóòè, – ÑØÀ.



Âëàäèìèð Ïóòèí
È óæ âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, îòïóñêàòü ñâîåãî «äðóãà» â âîëüíîå ïëàâàíèå ðåâíèâûå àìåðèêàíñêèå äðóçüÿ íå íàìåðåíû. À ðåñóðñîì âëèÿíèÿ íà Ñàóäîâñêóþ Àðàâèþ îíè îáëàäàþò, ïðÿìî ñêàæåì, íåìàëûì – è âîåííûì, è ôèíàíñîâûì è ò. ä. Òåì íå ìåíåå àðàáñêèì ñòðàíàì òàê æå âûãîäíî ïîêàçàòü ÑØÀ, ÷òî íà íèõ ñâåò êëèíîì íå ñîøåëñÿ, ÷òî åñòü è «äðóãèå ñèëû», êàê, ñêàæåì, Ëóêàøåíêî âûãîäíî ïîêàçàòü Ðîññèè «åâðîïåéñêèé ëîêîòü».

Ïîëèòèêà! Äåëî òîðãîâîå, íå íàïóãàåøü – íå ïðîäàøü…

Âûãîäíî ýòî, ñàìî ñîáîé, è Ðîññèè – ïî÷åìó íå ñûãðàòü ñâîþ èãðó â êîíòåêñòå ÷óæîé èãðû? Ãëàâíîå, êàê âñåãäà, – íå çàèãðàòüñÿ.

Ðîññèÿ ëèøíèé ðàç ïîêàçûâàåò ñâîþ «ðåçêóþ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíîñòü», ñâîþ ñïîñîáíîñòü (è æåëàíèå) èãðàòü íà òîé ñàìîé Âåëèêîé øàõìàòíîé äîñêå, î êîòîðîé ëþáèò ðàññóæäàòü ñòîëü íåæíî ëþáèìûé â ÐÔ ä-ð Áæåçèíñêèé.

È õîòÿ ýòî âûçûâàåò åñòåñòâåííîå ðàçäðàæåíèå ó Áîëüøèõ Èãðîêîâ, íî Ðîññèÿ äîâîëüíî «íàõàëüíî» çàÿâëÿåò: à êòî ñêàçàë, ÷òî ìû – èãðîêè ìàëåíüêèå?! Ìû, íàïðèìåð, ñ÷èòàåì ñåáÿ òîæå Áîëüøèìè Èãðîêàìè. È ïîêà íå äîêàçàíî îáðàòíîå, òàê è áóäåì ñ÷èòàòü. Âû ëþáèòå èãðàòü íà Áëèæíåì Âîñòîêå? Òàê è íàì ïóòü íå çàêàçàí – ãëîáàëèçàöèÿ! Ïðè÷åì âî âñå ñòîðîíû…

Åñòü òóò è âíóòðèïîëèòè÷åñêèé àñïåêò. Êîíå÷íî, ñòîëü ñèëüíûå èíèöèàòèâû êàæåòñÿ åñòåñòâåííûì âûñòàâëÿòü íå òîìó ïðåçèäåíòó, êîòîðûé ñêîðî óõîäèò, à òîìó, êîòîðûé òîëüêî ðàçâîðà÷èâàåò ñâîè çíàìåíà ïî âåòðó. Îäíàêî ÿ äàæå îáñóæäàòü «ñêàçêó òðåòüåãî ñðîêà» íå áóäó. Óæ åñëè î ÷åì-òî Ïóòèí âûñêàçàëñÿ ïðåäåëüíî ÷åòêî, òàê ýòî î ñâîåì óõîäå – ñ íàçûâàíèåì äàò è óñëîâèé.  ÷åì-÷åì, à â ýòîì êîíñòèòóöèÿ, î÷åâèäíî, áóäåò ñîáëþäàòüñÿ.

Êàêîâ æå â òàêîì ñëó÷àå âíóòðèïîëèòè÷åñêèé ñìûñë «ìþíõåíñêîãî ãîâîðà»? Íå òàê äàâíî â Äàâîñå âûñòóïàë ëèáåðàëüíûé Äìèòðèé Ìåäâåäåâ.  Ìþíõåíå «ìîë÷àëèâûì àññèñòåíòîì» ïðè ðå÷è Ïóòèíà áûë Ñåðãåé Èâàíîâ. ×òî æ, êàðòèíó äëÿ Çàïàäà íàðèñîâàëè ïðåäåëüíî ÷åòêóþ.

Äîáðûé ñëåäîâàòåëü – çëîé ñëåäîâàòåëü, ãîëóáü – ÿñòðåá, ëèáåðàëüíî ñòåëþò – èëè ïî-ñîëäàòñêè æåñòêî ñïàòü.

Ñìîòðèòå, ãîñïîäà! Ðîññèéñêàÿ ïîëèòèêà âåäü ìîæåò ðàçâåðíóòüñÿ è òàê è ñÿê. À åùå ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî «íåò âûáîðà»… Åùå è êàê åñòü! Ðàçóìååòñÿ – è ýòî ëèøíèé ðàç ïîä÷åðêíóëè â Ìþíõåíå – âûáîð íàø, íàì è ðåøàòü. Íî âåäü è âàì, ãîñïîäà, ýòî ìîæåò áûòü äàëåêî íå áåçðàçëè÷íî, íå ïðàâäà ëè?

Äâóãëàâûé îðåë-òî! Êàêîé æå ãîëîâîé îí ê âàì ïîâåðíåòñÿ? Åñëè âû õîòèòå, ÷òîáû ëèáåðàëüíîé ãîëîâîé Ìåäâåäåâà, òî… Âïðî÷åì, ÷òî æ âàñ ó÷èòü, ÷òî æ âàì íàâÿçûâàòü! Ìû – çà ñâîáîäó è ìíîãîïîëÿðíûé ìèð. «Äóìàéòå ñàìè, ðåøàéòå ñàìè». À ìû, ïîêàçàâ âàì ïðîáëåìó ñ ðàçíûõ ñòîðîí, «áóäåì ïîãëÿäåòü» íà âàøó, ãîñïîäà, ðåàêöèþ. Âîçìîæåí è òàêîé ïîäòåêñò (â ðÿäó ìíîãèõ äðóãèõ, ðàçóì
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Âñåãî ëèøü äâà äåñÿòèëåòèÿ íàçàä ìèð áûë èäåîëîãè÷åñêè è ýêîíîìè÷åñêè ðàñêîëîò, à åãî áåçîïàñíîñòü îáåñïå÷èâàëè îãðîìíûå ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèå ïîòåíöèàëû äâóõ ñâåðõäåðæàâ.

Ãëîáàëüíîå ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèå îòîäâèãàëî íà ïåðèôåðèþ ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îòíîøåíèé è ïîâåñòêè äíÿ êðàéíå îñòðûå ýêîíîìè÷åñêèå è ñîöèàëüíûå âîïðîñû. È, êàê âñÿêàÿ âîéíà, «âîéíà õîëîäíàÿ» îñòàâèëà íàì è «íåðàçîðâàâøèåñÿ ñíàðÿäû», îáðàçíî âûðàæàÿñü. Èìåþ â âèäó èäåîëîãè÷åñêèå ñòåðåîòèïû, äâîéíûå ñòàíäàðòû, èíûå øàáëîíû áëîêîâîãî ìûøëåíèÿ.

Ïðåäëàãàâøèéñÿ æå ïîñëå «õîëîäíîé âîéíû» îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð òîæå íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ.

Èñòîðèÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà, êîíå÷íî, çíàåò è ïåðèîäû îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ è ñòðåìëåíèÿ ê ìèðîâîìó ãîñïîäñòâó. ×åãî òîëüêî íå áûëî â èñòîðèè ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà.

Îäíàêî ÷òî æå òàêîå îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð? Êàê áû íè óêðàøàëè ýòîò òåðìèí, îí â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå îçíà÷àåò íà ïðàêòèêå òîëüêî îäíî: ýòî îäèí öåíòð âëàñòè, îäèí öåíòð ñèëû, îäèí öåíòð ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèÿ.

Ýòî ìèð îäíîãî õîçÿèíà, îäíîãî ñóâåðåíà. È ýòî â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå ãóáèòåëüíî íå òîëüêî äëÿ âñåõ, êòî íàõîäèòñÿ â ðàìêàõ ýòîé ñèñòåìû, íî è äëÿ ñàìîãî ñóâåðåíà, ïîòîìó ÷òî ðàçðóøàåò åãî èçíóòðè.

È ýòî íè÷åãî îáùåãî íå èìååò, êîíå÷íî, ñ äåìîêðàòèåé. Ïîòîìó ÷òî äåìîêðàòèÿ – ýòî, êàê èçâåñòíî, âëàñòü áîëüøèíñòâà ïðè ó÷åòå èíòåðåñîâ è ìíåíèé ìåíüøèíñòâà.

Êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ, Ðîññèþ, íàñ, ïîñòîÿííî ó÷àò äåìîêðàòèè. Íî òå, êòî íàñ ó÷èò, ñàìè ïî÷åìó-òî ó÷èòüñÿ íå î÷åíü õîòÿò.

Ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî äëÿ ñîâðåìåííîãî ìèðà îäíîïîëÿðíàÿ ìîäåëü íå òîëüêî íåïðèåìëåìà, íî è âîîáùå íåâîçìîæíà. È íå òîëüêî ïîòîìó, ÷òî ïðè åäèíîëè÷íîì ëèäåðñòâå â ñîâðåìåííîì – èìåííî â ñîâðåìåííîì – ìèðå íå áóäåò õâàòàòü íè âîåííî-ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ, íè ýêîíîìè÷åñêèõ ðåñóðñîâ. Íî ÷òî åùå âàæíåå: ñàìà ìîäåëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåðàáîòàþùåé, òàê êàê â åå îñíîâå íåò è íå ìîæåò áûòü ìîðàëüíî-íðàâñòâåííîé áàçû ñîâðåìåííîé öèâèëèçàöèè.

Âìåñòå ñ òåì âñå, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò ñåãîäíÿ â ìèðå, – è ñåé÷àñ ìû òîëüêî íà÷àëè äèñêóòèðîâàòü îá ýòîì – ýòî ñëåäñòâèå ïîïûòîê âíåäðåíèÿ èìåííî ýòîé êîíöåïöèè â ìèðîâûå äåëà – êîíöåïöèè îäíîïîëÿðíîãî ìèðà.

À êàêîé ðåçóëüòàò?

Îäíîñòîðîííèå, íåëåãèòèìíûå ÷àñòî äåéñòâèÿ íå ðåøèëè íè îäíîé ïðîáëåìû. Áîëåå òîãî, îíè ñòàëè ãåíåðàòîðîì íîâûõ ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ òðàãåäèé è î÷àãîâ íàïðÿæåííîñòè. Ñóäèòå ñàìè: âîéí, ëîêàëüíûõ è ðåãèîíàëüíûõ êîíôëèêòîâ ìåíüøå íå ñòàëî. Ãîñïîäèí Òåëü÷èê âîò îá ýòîì î÷åíü ìÿãêî óïîìÿíóë. È ëþäåé â ýòèõ êîíôëèêòàõ ãèáíåò íå ìåíüøå, à äàæå áîëüøå, ÷åì ðàíüøå – çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå, çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå!

Ñåãîäíÿ ìû íàáëþäàåì ïî÷òè íè÷åì íå ñäåðæèâàåìîå, ãèïåðòðîôèðîâàííîå ïðèìåíåíèå ñèëû â ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ, âîåííîé ñèëû, ñèëû, ââåðãàþùåé ìèð â ïó÷èíó ñëåäóþùèõ îäèí çà äðóãèì êîíôëèêòîâ.  ðåçóëüòàòå íå õâàòàåò ñèë íà êîìïëåêñíîå ðåøåíèå íè îäíîãî èç íèõ. Ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåâîçìîæíûì è èõ ïîëèòè÷åñêîå ðåøåíèå.

Ìû âèäèì âñå áîëüøåå ïðåíåáðåæåíèå îñíîâîïîëàãàþùèìè ïðèíöèïàìè ìåæäóíàðîäíîãî ïðàâà. Áîëüøå òîãî, îòäåëüíûå íîðìû, äà, ïî ñóòè, ÷óòü ëè íå âñÿ ñèñòåìà ïðàâà îäíîãî ãîñóäàðñòâà, ïðåæäå âñåãî, êîíå÷íî, Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòîâ, ïåðåøàãíóëà ñâîè íàöèîíàëüíûå ãðàíèöû âî âñåõ ñôåðàõ: è â ýêîíîìèêå, è â ïîëèòèêå, è â ãóìàíèòàðíîé ñôåðå – è íàâÿçûâàåòñÿ äðóãèì ãîñóäàðñòâàì. Íó êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ? Êîìó ýòî ïîíðàâèòñÿ?

 ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ äåëàõ âñå ÷àùå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñòðåìëåíèå ðåøèòü òîò èëè èíîé âîïðîñ, èñõîäÿ èç òàê íàçûâàåìîé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé öåëåñîîáðàçíîñòè, îñíîâàííîé íà òåêóùåé ïîëèòè÷åñêîé êîíúþíêòóðå.

È ýòî, êîíå÷íî, êðàéíå îïàñíî. È âåäåò ê òîìó, ÷òî íèêòî óæå íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè. ß õî÷ó ýòî ïîä÷åðêíóòü: íèêòî íå ÷óâñòâóåò ñåáÿ â áåçîïàñíîñòè! Ïîòîìó ÷òî íèêòî íå ìîæåò ñïðÿòàòüñÿ çà ìåæäóíàðîäíûì ïðàâîì êàê çà êàìåííîé ñòåíîé. Òàêàÿ ïîëèòèêà ÿâëÿåòñÿ, êîíå÷íî, êàòàëèçàòîðîì ãîíêè âîîðóæåíèé.

Äîìèíèðîâàíèå ôàêòîðà ñèëû íåèçáåæíî ïîäïèòûâàåò òÿãó ðÿäà ñòðàí ê îáëàäàíèþ îðóæèåì ìàññîâîãî óíè÷òîæåíèÿ. Áîëüøå òîãî, ïîÿâèëèñü ïðèíöèïèàëüíî íîâûå óãðîçû, êîòîðûå è ðàíüøå áûëè èçâåñòíû, íî ñåãîäíÿ ïðèîáðåòàþò ãëîáàëüíûé õàðàêòåð, òàêèå êàê òåððîðèçì.



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Ïóòèí óòâåðæäàåò ÷òî îäíîïîëÿðíûé ìèð ïðåäëàãàëñÿ, î÷åâèäíî êåì-òî ïðåäëàãàëñÿ, è ýòîò "ïðîýêò" íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ. Íî âåäü ýòî íå òàê. ÑÑÑÐ ðàçâàëèëñÿ, åãî ïðîñòî íå ñòàëî. Ðîññèÿ íà òîò ìîìåíò íå ìîãëà èãðàòü ðîëü ñóïåðäåæàâû, ñðàâíèìîé ïî ìîùè ñ USA, ìèð de facto ñòàë îäíîïîëÿðåí.

Äðóãîå äåëî ÷òî Ïóòèí óòâåðæäàåò ÷òî ãëîáàëüíî, òàêîå ïîëîæåíèå äåë íå ïðèâåëî ê áîëüøåé áåçîïàñíîñòè â ìèðîâîì ìàñøòàáå. È òóò ÿ ñ íèì ñîëèäàðåí. À åñëè ïðèçàäóìàòüñÿ, òî íåèñêëþ÷åíî ÷òî ãäå-òî è ñòàëî õóæå.
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Ïîòîì, ãîâîðÿ îá îäíîïîëÿðíîñòè ìèðà è äîìèíèðîâàíèè Øòàòîâ íà ìèðîâîé àðåíå, îí çà÷åì-òî äåìîêðàòèþ ïðèïë¸ë.

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Ïîíÿòèå -äåìîêðàòèÿ- ïðèìåíèìî ê ãîñóäàðñòâåííîìó óñòðîéñòâó, ê ôóíêöèîíèðîâàíèþ èíñòèòóòîâ âëàñòè.

Íî ÷òî, íà ìèðîâîé àðåíå åñòü íåêîå åäèíîå ãîñóäàðñòâî, ñ åäèíîé êîíñòèòóöèåé, ñ åäèíûì ïðàâèòåëüñòâîì? Òàêîãî íå èìååòñÿ.

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: 10.03.2005
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