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В ходе специального заседания кабинета по иностранным делам и обороне Эхуду Бараку удалось убедить присутствующих в том, что создание комиссии по расследованию действий ЦАХАЛа в Газе нанесет ущерб имиджу Израиля на международной арене.
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Бу-га-га! А присутствующие, типа, не были заранее согласны.
Типа, кричали: Даёшь объективное и беспристратное расследование действий Цахаля в Газе! Докажем же с цифрами и фактами в руках что не наказывали мы коллективно весь палестинский народ, что это Хамас сам наказал свой народ подставив его под пули.
Докажем что не уничтожали мы мирное население, что это Хамас прикрывался мирными жителями как щитом, потому их столько и погибло.
Докажем же что не мы уничтожали инфраструктуру, не бомбили универститет, мечети, не выжигали фосфором сады, не вырубали оливы, не разрушали дома, фермы и пр. Докажем же что это Хамас довёл свой народ до такой ситуации.
А Барак, типа, используя всё своё красноречие убедил.... _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Israel has been dealing one blow after another to the rest of the world. While China has still not recovered from Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's absence from the reception at its Tel Aviv embassy - a serious punishment for China's support for the Goldstone report - France is licking its wounds after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "vetoed" a visit by the French foreign minister to Gaza. And Israel has dealt another blow: Its ambassador in Washington, Michael Oren, will boycott the conference next week of the new Israel lobby J Street.
China, France and J Street will somehow get by despite these boycotts, Turkey will also recover from the great vacationers' revolt, and we can expect that even the Swedes and Norwegians will recover from Israel's loud reprimands. But a country that attacks and boycotts everyone who does not exactly agree with its official positions will become isolated, forsaken and detestable: North Korea of today or Albania of yesterday. It's actually quite strange for Israel to use this weapon, as it is about to turn into the victim of boycotts itself.
Israel strikes and strikes again. It strikes its enemies, and now it strikes out at its friends who dare not fall exactly in line with its official policies. The J Street case is a particularly serious example. This Jewish organization rose in America along with Barack Obama. Its members want a fair and peace-seeking Israel.
That's their sin, and their punishment is a boycott.
Oren, meanwhile, is a devoted representative: He also is boycotting. After criticizing Israeli columnists, including this one, in an article in The New Republic for daring to criticize Netanyahu's speech at the UN - an outrage in its own right - the ambassador-propagandist uses the boycott weapon against a new and refreshing Jewish and Zionist organization that is trying to battle the nationalistic and heavy-handed Jewish-American establishment.
In whose name is Oren doing that? Not in the name of Israeli society, whose ambassador he supposedly is. The former ambassadors from Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union would have acted the same way.
Such aggressiveness is a bad sign. It will drive away our last true friends and deepen our isolation. "A nation alone" has turned into our goal, our isolation has become an aspiration. Whom will we have left after we attack and boycott everyone? Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League? Our propagandist-attorney Alan Dershowitz?
Dividing the world up between absolute good and evil - our side and our enemies, with no middle ground - is a sign of despair and a complete loss of direction. It's not just our ambassador in Washington, who knows nothing at all about democracy and pluralism and only wants to please his masters. Such behavior - kicking and barking crazily in every direction - is destroying Israel.
Without giving us a chance to voice our opinion, Israel is falling to the status of an international pariah, the abomination of the nations. And whom can we thank for that? Operation Cast Lead, for example. Only the United States remains our automatic and blind ally for all our mistakes. Another democracy that saw its status deteriorating so much would ask itself first and foremost what mistakes it had made.
In Israel our approach is exactly the opposite: The rest of the world is guilty. The Scandinavians are hostile and the Turks are enemies, the French and British hate Israel, the Chinese are only Chinese and the Indians can't teach us anything.
Any legitimate criticism is immediately labeled here as anti-Semitism, including Richard Goldstone, the Jewish Zionist. We are pushing everyone into a corner roughly and hope they will change their opinions and suddenly be filled with a deep understanding for the killing of children in Gaza. Now America too, even its Jews, are no longer immune to this aggressive Israel mad with grandeur.
The damage is piling up from Beijing all the way to New York. After the J Street boycott even American Jews will know that Israel is not a tolerant, open-minded or liberal country, despite what they are being told.
Now they will know that "the only democracy in the Middle East" is not exactly that, and whoever does not repeat and proclaim its propaganda messages will be considered an enemy - they may also be punished severely.
They should just ask the billion Chinese who are licking their wounds from the mortal blow the Israeli Foreign Minster dealt them personally. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Очень верно сказано!
...In Israel our approach is exactly the opposite: The rest of the world is guilty. The Scandinavians are hostile and the Turks are enemies, the French and British hate Israel, the Chinese are only Chinese and the Indians can't teach us anything.
Any legitimate criticism is immediately labeled here as anti-Semitism, including Richard Goldstone, the Jewish Zionist. We are pushing everyone into a corner roughly and hope they will change their opinions and suddenly be filled with a deep understanding for the killing of children in Gaza... _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Ну так опубликуйте наконец результаты этого исследования!
По-моему самое время. Голдстоун свой отчёт опубликовал, цифры привёл, найденные факты изложил, всё чётко и ясно. Указано конкретное время, место, обстоятельства, количество жертв среди мирного населения и прочее.
А Ашкенази чего ждёт? Может Голстоун всё придумал или переврал? Так разоблачите же его, с цифрами и фактами в руках!
IDF Chief: Israeli inquiry into Gaza war proper response to Goldstone
By Assaf Uni, Haaretz Correspondent
Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi responded for the first time to discussions of setting up a committee of inquiry into Operation Cast Lead during his first visit to Germany as Chief of Staff on Monday.
"All possibilities are being examined and the IDF is taking part in discussions," said Ashkenazi to reporters during his visit. "I assume that the Prime Minister and the Israeli government will make the right decision."
Ashkenazi refused to give details to whether the IDF opposes the committee of inquiry, but clarified that the "IDF was investigating before the Goldstone report and is still continuing to investigate itself." He claimed that not only the IDF stands in the spotlight of the report, but the Israeli government does as well, which is accused in the report of planning a "military operation against an innocent population."
"It's a good thing the government is investigating the subject harshly - we must respond to the Goldstone report," Ashkenazi said.
As part of his visit to Germany, the Chief of Staff participated in a memorial ceremony for Holocaust victims. "I, Gabi Ashkenazi, a son of a Holocaust survivor, stand here today as the commander of the Israel Defense Forces, and carry with pride the flag of the state of Israel - the state of the Jewish nation," he said.
Ashkenazi emphasized in his speech "the obligation to forever remember the most horrible atrocity in the history of mankind, and to make sure that we will never deposit our trust in strangers, or let anyone control the future of the state of Israel." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Хамас согласен провести собственное расследование в связи с отчётом Голдстоуна.
http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/news/archive/2009/10/27/exclusive-khaled-meshal-interviewed-for-palestine-note.aspx News » Exclusive: Khaled Meshal interviewed for Palestine Note
Last week Steve Clemons, director of foreign policy programs at the New America Institute in Washington, DC (and a Palestine Note blogger), conducted an exclusive interview with Hamas leader Khaled Meshal in Damascus. Watch the video below, then scroll down to read the excerpts we have chosen from the transcript.
Clemons: What is [your] vision for a united Palestine, particularly after the occupation? Is there a positive, constructive vision for Palestine that someone like you in leadership can see and talk about that exists beyond the darker side of the Israeli occupation?
Meshal: We want to not have wars in the region, but after our people get their rights...Our people look forward to achieve this goal through any peaceful means, but unfortunately our people were affected or let down by many of its surroundings. That's why they sought the struggle through resistance, which is a means not a need. If they were to find a peaceful ways to get their rights, they would deal with it seriously.
Clemons: You have been...very critical of ... Mahmoud Abbas and his position on the Goldstone report. One of [my] questions is ... [how] has your own thinking evolve[ed] because of the Goldstone report?
Meshal: If the [Goldstone] report or any other side has any reservations on Hamas' actions, we are ready to explain them and we will form an honest and neutral investigative committee in Gaza to give Goldstone and its committee and the international community the facts. Hamas does not aim to kill civilians. Hamas does not want to target the civilians. Hamas defends itself, but because it has simple abilities and its rockets are inaccurate in targeting, so it reaches the civilians, but we do not intend to do that. That cannot be compared. We are the victims...Hamas and the Palestinian people are the victims and Israel is the hangman, the occupier and the attacker. As a result, the Goldstone report is important because for the first time the Palestinian people felt there is an international side that was fair to the Palestinians and accused who should be accused, which is Israel.
Clemons: [Are you] a Palestinian patriot or a Muslim patriot? Obviously from an American perspective too many Americans look at...Muslim Brotherhood, Hizbullah, Hamas and they say they are all al-Qaeda, which I know is wrong but I would like to hear how you characterize this.
Meshal: Hamas is a movement of national liberation....We adopt the Islamic thought, because we are part of [a] region that is Arab and Muslim. This is a normal thing, just like when there is a movement in Europe it is Christian. We are a liberation movement but we are an Islamic movement too because we are part of this region naturally.
We are against extremism in the Islamic thought. We support moderation, and this is the real Islam as we see it. We carry out the resistance but we do not practice violence [that is] legitimate resistance against the occupier. We do not carry out [resistance] abroad, but we carry it out in Palestine against the Israeli occupier. ... we believe in dialogue between civilizations and not through the clash of civilizations.
Clemons: Can Hamas be...an active and constructive player in peace negotiations... with Israel, in a way, or does that undo your basic charter? And...if you were to give smart council to president Obama and his team on how to reach this region in a more effective way, what would be some of the things that you would share with the president?
Meshal: Hams has announced that it is ready to cooperate with the law and with any international or regional effort to reach real peace in the region. We and all the Palestinians and Arabs accept the borders of June 4, 1967. The problem is not with the Palestinians, Hamas, Fatah or the Arab. The problem is with Israel. The problem is not whether we accept or not, but the question is does the Obama administration and the international community has the will, the desire and the ability to pressure Israel to force her to accept that?
I advise the Obama administration to get to know the psychology of this region and its history. They should realize that the way to change the current scene in the region...is not by pressuring the Arabs and Palestinians again. ...the strategy must change. Israel is the obstacle. Pressuring Israel is what will change the scene. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Израиль, однако, отказался создавать какую-либо независимую комиссию.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday approved the creation of a task force of professionals who will present a series of recommendations for countering the Goldstone report and its implications.
The task force was coordinated by Minister Yaakov Neeman at Netanyahu's request. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz and Chief Military Prosecutor Avihai Mandelblit will comprise the task force, alongside the legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry and the Cabinet Secretary.
Netanyahu said earlier this week that the establishment of an independent committee of inquiry on Operation Cast Lead is not under consideration. "No soldiers or officers will be brought before a commission of inquiry," he said.
The team established in its place is to offer recommendations for actions that can be taken on the legal and diplomatic-political fronts, as well as on public relations efforts that can be made internationally.
"There are different views on the actions that we should undertake," said a source at the Prime Minister's Bureau. "What we will not do is clear and now we need to find something else." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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The United Nations General Assembly announced late Wednesday it will meet next week to consider a report that accused both Israeli forces and Palestinian militants of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity during the offensive in Gaza last winter.
The Geneva-based Human Rights Council endorsed the report by an expert panel chaired by South African Judge Richard Goldstone on Oct. 16 and recommended that the General Assembly take it up during the current session.
General Assembly President Ali Treki received a letter from the president of the Human Rights Council transmitting the report and requests from Arab nations and the 118-member Nonaligned Group of mainly developing nations asking the assembly to consider its findings and recommendations during the first week of November, Assembly spokesman Jean Victor Nkolo said.
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He said Treki intends to convene a plenary meeting of the General Assembly on Nov. 4.
The Goldstone report concluded that Israel used disproportionate force, deliberately targeting civilians, using Palestinians as human shields, and destroying civilian infrastructure during its incursion into Gaza to root out Palestinian rocket squads.
It accused Palestinian armed groups of deliberately targeting civilians and trying to spread terror through its rocket attacks on southern Israel. Hamas, the Palestinian Authority's main rival, controls Gaza and most armed groups in the territory.
The report recommended that the Security Council require both sides to carry out credible investigations within three months into alleged abuses during the conflict - in which 13 Israelis and almost 1,400 Palestinians, including hundreds of civilians, were killed - and to follow that up with action in their courts.
If either side refuses, the investigators recommended that the Security Council refer the evidence for prosecution by the International Criminal Court, the world's first permanent war crimes tribunal, within six months.
Even if the report eventually gets to the Security Council, there is little chance it will take any action, primarily because of objections by the United States, Israel's closest ally which has veto power and has said the report is biased and should not be taken up by the UN's most powerful body.
The resolution approved by the Human Rights Council condemns Israel's failure to cooperate with Goldstone's fact-finding mission, endorses the report's recommendations and calls on the UN and other bodies to ensure they are implemented.
The report has set off an uproar in Israel with the country's leaders calling the document biased and accusing the Human Rights Council of being hostile to Israel.
Ban told a news conference he looks forward to the General Assembly's debate and decision.
"I will decide my own course of action upon that," he said.
The secretary-general reiterated that alleged violations of international human rights and humanitarian laws must be investigated and those responsible should be held accountable.
"I have called repeatedly on both the Israeli government and the Palestinians to carry out full, independent and credible investigations," he said.
Ban also urged Israel to accept UN proposals for the reconstruction of Gaza, noting that 10 months after hostilities ended there has been no progress on rebuilding homes, buildings and infrastructure - or on reopening the territory's borders. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125593.html U.S. House backs resolution to condemn Goldstone Gaza report
By Natasha Mozgovaya and Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondents, and News Agencies
Tags: Goldstone Gaza Report
The U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday condemned a UN report that accuses Israeli forces and Palestinian militants of committing war crimes in Gaza early this year as irredeemably biased and unworthy of further consideration or legitimacy.
With a 344-36 vote, the House passed a nonbinding resolution that urged President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to oppose unequivocally any endorsement of the report. Twenty-two representatives voted present.
The report, commissioned by the UN Human Rights Council, accuses both
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srael and the Palestinian Hamas group of war crimes but presents Israel's actions as much more serious.
The report "paints a distorted picture," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. It "epitomizes the practice of singling Israel out from all other nations for condemnation."
The Ros-Lehtinen/Berman resolution defines the report as "biased and unworthy of further consideration," U.S. Representative Howard Berman, chairman of the Foreign Relations committee, said recently at the Jerusalem Conference.
Democratic Congresswoman Nita Lowey, Chairwoman of the State and Foreign Operations Appropriations Subcommittee, warned lawmakers that further consideration of the Goldstone report could seriously harm Middle East peace negotiations.
"Israel, like all sovereign nations, has the responsibility to respect human rights and adhere to international law," she said, "However, its defense of its citizens against attacks by Hamas militants simply cannot be conflated with terrorist actions.
"Facilitating a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians is among our most important foreign policy priorities, and further consideration of the Goldstone report could hinder movement toward peace negotiations," said Lowey.
However, opponents of the House move warned that although the resolution was non-binding, it would hurt U.S. credibility as a broker of Middle East peace.
The National Jewish Democratic Council urged Democratic members of Congress to support the resolution and denounce the commission's report.
"The Obama administration has made it abundantly and repeatedly clear that they stand with Israel against the distorted Goldstone Commission report. And as this legislation correctly asserts, the report is indeed 'irredeemably biased,'" the JDC said in a statement.
"We concur with the findings of the Ros-Lehtinen/Berman resolution that this report is deeply flawed, and that the U.S. government should do all in its power to stop this report in its tracks at the UN, lest it be used to undermine Israel's fundamental right to self-defense in the future."
PA envoy: Report is balanced and responsible
The Palestinians are pressing for adoption of a UN General Assembly resolution that urges Israel and the Palestinians to carry out independent investigations of alleged war crimes during their conflict in Gaza last winter.
The proposed General Assembly resolution also calls for possible Security Council action if both sides don't take credible steps in three months.
The 192-nation world body has scheduled a meeting Wednesday to consider a resolution adopted by the Geneva-based Human Rights Council on Oct. 16 that endorsed the report on the Gaza war by an expert panel chaired by Goldstone.
Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian UN observer, said Tuesday the draft resolution is balanced and very responsible and is supported by many countries, though several European nations indicated they are still seeking changes.
"We're listening to all comments, but the draft resolution as it stands, the thrust of it, is asking for investigation, and there is unanimity on that call," he said. "We'll take it from there."
Mansour said the resolution will definitely be approved, but he said, "I don't think it will be put to a vote before Thursday."
Israel urges West to reject Goldstone report
Meanwhile, Israel has called on Western nations to speak out against any endorsement of report when the matter comes up for deliberation at the United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday.
Israel has told the countries of the European Union and other friendly nations that it expects them to vote against any resolution proposed by the Arab states on the report.
The deliberations will revolve around a draft resolution by Arab states
calling for the adoption of the report and the transfer of the debate from the General Assembly to the Security Council. The resolution also calls for an independent inquiry by Israel into Operation Cast Lead and the presentation of its conclusions in three months.
Senior officials at the Foreign Ministry described the Arab resolution as very extreme and said it constitutes an escalation of the attacks against Israel in international forums.
A vote is not expected immediately, but Israeli sources say one is likely by the end of the week.
On Tuesday, Britain and France, representing the EU, held talks with
representatives of the Palestinian Authority and Arab states at the United Nations in an effort to soften the proposed resolution.
Accordingly a Franco-British document representing the EU has been drafted, describing "red lines" that the resolution should not cross if the Arab states and the Palestinians expect Western support.
Essentially, the offer seeks to avoid the transfer of deliberations from the General Assembly to the Security Council or the International Criminal Court at The Hague. The Europeans are asking Israel and the Palestinians to agree to an independent inquiry into the war and a return of the matter to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva.
A notable element in the Arab draft resolution is a failure to mention Hamas; it refers only to the Palestinians, even though the original Goldstone report mentions Hamas and accuses it of carrying out war crimes along with Israel.
Whatever form it takes, the Arab resolution is expected to gain a majority with 130 votes. However, if it remains extremist and the Europeans refuse to support it, there is a chance that around 60 countries will vote against it or abstain.
Foreign Ministry director general Yossi Gal told ambassadors on Tuesday that any further support for the Goldstone report would have a negative effect on the peace process and undermine democracies' right to self-defense.
ADL director to Goldstone: As a good Jew, repudiate report
Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman of ADL called on Goldstone to repudiate his report: "I have had great respect for you over the years. Your work at the head of the South Africa Reconciliation Commission and in helping to find a just solution to the Bosnian conflict deserves the highest commendation.
"Moreover, I know you to be a proud Jew who serves on the Board of Trustees of Hebrew University and who has a daughter living in Israel."
"With this background, I wondered in the first place how you could take on the chairmanship of the investigation of the war in Gaza mandated by the UN Human Rights Council," he said. "After all, the Human Rights Council has repeatedly demonstrated its bias against Israel and in its stated mission for the investigation began with assumptions presuming Israeli guilt." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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The United Nations General Assembly debated on Wednesday a resolution that would call on Israel and the Palestinians to investigate charges of war crimes during the Gaza war detailed in a report that has infuriated Israel.
The nonbinding resolution on the Goldstone report, which looked certain to be approved by the 192-nation assembly, also requests that UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon submit the 575-page report to the Security Council.
The report, commissioned by the UN Human Rights Council and published on Sept. 15, lambasted both sides in the December-January conflict, which killed more than 1,000 Palestinians and 13 Israelis, but was harsher toward Israel.
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Diplomats say there is little chance that the report or the Arab-drafted resolution could lead to punishment of either side. But it has enraged Israel and galvanized American Jews.
In the assembly debate, Arab envoys praised the report by South African jurist Richard Goldstone and demanded an end to what they called the Israel's impunity. But Israel damned the document as "conceived in hate and executed in sin.""
There is no veto in the assembly and the resolution looked sure to win a majority. But with more than 40 envoys listed to speak, most of them from Arab and other Muslim countries, it was unclear whether the vote would take place on Wednesday.
Israel's ally the United States was one of a small number of countries expected to vote against the resolution. In a clear warning to the administration, the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday urged President Barack Obama to oppose UN endorsement of Goldstone's findings.
Most members of the 27-nation European Union were likely to abstain, although diplomats said negotiations were underway with the Arabs to agree a text the Europeans could support.
The diplomats said the EU opposed the resolution's implicit endorsement of the Goldstone report, which Western states have called flawed, although making important points.
Representing the EU, Ambassador Anders Liden of Sweden, the bloc's current president, called the report serious and urged Israel and the Palestinians to launch "appropriate, credible and independent investigations" into its charges.
But Israeli Ambassador Gabriela Shalev gave no hint that her country, which refused to cooperate with Goldstone, would respond. She charged that the report was "irreparably tainted" and "bends both fact and law."
Palestinian representative Riyad Mansour rejected Israel's principal argument that the report ignored the Jewish state's right to defend itself. Israel attacked Gaza on Dec. 27 to try to stamp out Palestinian rocket fire against Israeli cities.
Of 36 incidents in Gaza investigated by Goldstone, "with only one exception, the facts prove that there were no military targets that could justify such attacks by the Israeli occupying forces," Mansour said.
He also reaffirmed that the Palestinian Authority was ready to investigate Goldstone's charges against the Palestinians. But the West Bank-based authority has no control over the Hamas authorities in Gaza.
The resolution follows Goldstone in calling on Israel and "the Palestinian side" to undertake within three months credible investigations into the report's charges.
It also asks Ban to submit the report to the Security Council. But diplomats said all five veto-wielding permanent council members opposed council involvement, so it was unlikely the 15-nation body would take action. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Gabriela Shalev, spoke at the opening of a UN General Assembly debate on a report accusing Israel of having committed war crimes in Gaza, saying that the report was "conceived in hate and executed in sin."
The report, dubbed the Goldstone report, was compiled by South African jurist Richard Goldstone and his fact-finding mission which reviewed the conduct of Israel and Hamas during Israel's offensive in Gaza last winter.
Shalev, one of the first speakers at the UN debate, began her address by offering her and Israel's condolences for the victims of the terror attacks recently carried out in Baghdad and in Pakistan.
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She went on to exert her belief that the debate held Wednesday wasn't "real" or straightforward, because "rather than confronting terrorism, the General Assembly chose again to detach itself from reality," she said, alleging that the body was launching "yet another campaign against the victims of terrorism, the people of Israel."
Shalev criticized Goldstone's mission, saying that "from its inception in a one-sided mandate, the [Goldstone] Gaza fact-finding mission was a politicized body with predetermined conclusions."
The report is a product of the Human Rights Council in Geneva, she argued, calling it an organization obsessed with Israel which has produced more condemnations of Israel than all the other UN member states combined.
Shalev mentioned the ongoing rocket fire from Gaza into Israel and argued that the basic human rights of nearly one million Israelis pelted with rockets for nearly a decade does not concern the Human Rights Council.
Later, the Israeli ambassador criticized the very debate of the issue at the General Assembly in New York. She condemned the "cynical political maneuvers" that prompted the Human Rights Council to transmit its report to New York.
Israel is committed to abiding by international law, Shalev declared, adding that the protocols of waging armed warfare are part of every Israeli soldier's training. Shalev also reiterated that Israel was committed to investigating any claim of wrongdoing by its army.
Shalev concluded her address by saying that the Goldstone report, and the UN debate, won't advance peace, but rather hinder efforts to resume peace talks because the report denies Israel's right to self defense. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Israel on Friday rejected a United Nations General Assembly resolution urging an investigation into a report saying war crimes were committed in Gaza, and condemned the world body vote as "completely detached from realities".
In a statement, the Foreign Ministry said in response to Thursday's vote that Israel "maintains the right to self-defense", and would "continue to act to protect the lives of its citizens from the threat of international terrorism".
The resolution, endorsing a report on the Gaza war commissioned by the Geneva-based UN Human Rights Council, was nonbinding and seen as unlikely to force either Israel or Islamist Hamas rulers in Gaza to investigate the findings.
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But Israel has responded with outrage to the findings issued in September by a panel led by South African jurist Richard Goldstone, seeing the document as an Arab bid to undermine the reputations of its military and political leaders.
"Israel rejects the resolution of the U.N. General Assembly, which is completely detached from realities on the ground that Israel must face," the Foreign Ministry statement issued by spokesman Yigal Palmor said.
Palmor also maintained that Israel had "demonstrated higher military and moral standards than each and every one of this resolution's instigators", during the war in December in which more than 1,300 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed.
The 192-member General Assembly adopted the resolution Thursday by a vote of 114-18, with others absent or abstaining. The resolution calls on the Security Council to act if either side fails to launch credible investigations within three months.
The report on the Gaza war was drafted by an expert UN panel chaired by South African Judge Richard Goldstone, and concluded that both Israel and Palestinian militants committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity.
The harshly worded UN draft resolution, composed by Arab member states, has not been softened despite U.S. and European efforts.
Israel's ambassador to the UN, Gabriela Shalev, told Haaretz before the vote that she did not plan to take part. "I won't lend a hand to a debate whose conclusions are predetermined. It was a predictable Arab game."
However, Israel and the United States were among those voting against the resolution. A total of 44 countries abstained.
The resolution enjoyed wide support among the Non-Aligned Movement bloc and the Arab bloc. These states comprise an automatic majority of 120 votes.
The draft resolution includes a demand for the Israeli government to carry out an "independent and credible" internal investigation of its own conduct during Israel's 3-week offensive in Gaza, which left over 1,000 Palestinians dead.
Hamas is not mentioned by name in the UN draft resolution. Instead, it calls on the "Palestinian side" to carry out an investigation into the Goldstone report findings that relate to Palestinians.
The draft resolution also includes a recommendation to convene the signatories of the fourth Geneva Convention treaty for an emergency session to discuss Israel's violations of the treaty.
Apart from Israel and the United States, a number of European countries including Italy, the Netherlands, Poland and the Czech Republic voted against the resolution. But the European Union was split, with others including Britain and France abstaining. Most developing countries voted in favor.
There is no veto in UN General Assembly votes, but the assembly's resolutions are non-binding. However, resolutions adopted by the General Assembly grant legitimacy to Security Council initiatives. But the five permanent members of the Security Council have the power to veto any resolution put up for a vote. Thus, any Arab initiative for an extreme resolution against Israel, such as the submission of the Goldstone report to the International Criminal Court, will likely be torpedoed by the veto-wielding U.S.
If the matter is put up for a Security Council vote, there is also the possibility that the U.S. and its allies - Britain or France, will block an official resolution, and instead issue a presidential statement or a press release.
An Israel delegate denounced the adoption of the resolution as a "mockery of reality" after Israel seized a vessel packed with weapons believed to have been sent by Iran to Hezbollah.
Israel's Deputy Ambassador Daniel Carmon told the assembly the resolution "endorses and legitimizes a deeply flawed, one-sided and prejudiced report of the discredited Human Rights Council and its politicized work that bends both fact and law."
U.S. Deputy Ambassador Alejandro Wolff said the resolution was flawed in several respects, including its failure to name the Hamas militant movement that rules Gaza. He also said a demand for international supervision of any Israeli and Palestinian investigations was "unhelpful." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Израиль, похоже, потихоньку ведёт собственное расследование. Но втихую. И армия, типа, расследует собственные действия. Итог известен заранее.
While the IDF is opposed, in principle, to setting up a committee of inquiry into the allegations against Israel made in the Goldstone Report on the fighting in the Gaza Strip, the military advocate general, Brig. Gen. Avichai Mendelblit, has ordered investigations into a number of allegations, currently being carried out by the Military Police.
Mendelblit has ordered investigations into 12 incidents that were, even before the report, the focus of Military Police investigations or part of operational investigations. Two involved civilian deaths, based on Palestinian claims. In the 10 other incidents, Palestinians claimed their property had been destroyed. Coordination of the investigations is being handled by the chief of Military Police in the Southern Command, Lt. Col. Gil Mamon. Mendelblit is part of a team of senior legal experts the government established last week to formulate recommendations on dealing with the report. The findings are to serve as the backbone for a counter-Goldstone report that is expected to be ready in a month.
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One of Mendelblit's arguments against creating a committee of inquiry following the Goldstone Report is that such a committee has never been set up as a result of external pressure, and says that surrendering to international pressure will constitute a dangerous precedent.
In his view there is no reason for an internal investigation into the policy decided by the government and then implemented into legal orders. He does believe, however, that it is possible to carry out an investigation into specific incidents. According to the Goldstone Report, government policy - or the orders on the use of force - was allegedly to purposely violate Palestinian human rights in the Gaza Strip.
Mendelblit's starting point contradicts that of the Goldstone commission, and relies on a Supreme Court ruling on providing Gaza with electricity, which also determined that with the pullout from the Strip in 2005, Israel's occupation of the territory came to an end. As such, the military attorney general argues that IDF operations in the Gaza Strip should fall only within humanitarian international law and international law governing warfare, and not the law on human rights. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Two academics who authored the military's ethical code are now calling on Israel to investigate some of the claims raised in the Goldstone report over its military offensive in the Gaza Strip last winter. While the scholars level harsh criticism at the report, they believe there is no alternative to probing several specific conclusions contained in it.
Prof. Moshe Halbertal and Prof. Avi Sagi were two of the authors of the "Spirit of the IDF," a military code of conduct released in 1992.
Last week Halbertal authored an article entitled "The Goldstone Illusion" in U.S. news magazine The New Republic, and Sagi posted an article on the Web site of Jerusalem's Shalom Hartman Institute. Both pieces called on Israel to examine some of the findings of the report, flawed though they believe it is.
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Halbertal's article described the Goldstone report's objective as "to prepare a general indictment of Israel as a predatory state that is geared toward violating human rights all the time."
Nonetheless, Halbertal wrote that Israel should respond to the report and present the guidelines by which it waged Operation Cast Lead. Israel, he wrote, must conduct an investigation that would restore perceptions of the legitimacy of its right to self-defense.
Among the report's claims which he believes merit an Israeli response are those of troops opening fire on a Palestinian mother and daughter carrying white flags, the destruction of homes in the conflict's final days, and harming civilian infrastructure such as power stations and water facilities.
In his article, Sagi wrote that the "Spirit of the IDF" sets a high bar for troops' conduct, requiring soldiers to do everything in their power to avoid harming unarmed individuals.
Sagi stated that even if Israel rejects the Goldstone report as a distortion of justice, "the question remains over whether in fact IDF troops operated everywhere as required, according to the values to which they are committed."
"I'm certain that no one instructed an IDF soldier to harm civilians," he wrote, adding: "In my heart there is a deep suspicion that in some of the military operations, soldiers and commanders did not adopt the highest [ethical] standard, and did not do everything in their power to avoid harming unarmed individuals."
Sagi added that he is concerned that the primary investigation into the Gaza conflict is being conducted within the legal system. The law, he wrote, sets a minimal standard for behavior, and everything below that standard is considered criminal. He wrote, however, that even some military behavior sanctioned by law can lead to an ethical "slippery slope." _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Это вообще уже из разряда анекдотов. Израиль, похоже, не понимают что смешно выглядит со своими претензиями.
Ну получит он ответ что, типа, Соломоновы Острова голосовали в поддержку отчёта Голдстона потому что Израиль совершил военные преступления в Газе. И что дальше?
И вообще, Соломоновы Острова - место ненадёжное, пользуется дурной репутацией, в своё время там капитана Кука съели. А учитывая что и сейчас все соседи в Океании воздержались, а Соломоновы Острова - нет, я бы не поехал....
Официальный представитель МИД Израиля прибывает на Соломоновы острова, чтобы получить объяснения того, почему представитель этого государства в ООН голосовал в поддержку "отчета Голдстона", осуждающего действия израильской армии в секторе Газы, сообщает Solomon Times Online.
В сообщении отмечается, что Соломоновы острова оказались единственным государством в Океании, поддержавшим этот отчет. Маршалловы острова, Объединенные государства Микронезии, Науру и Палау – вместе с Австралией – согласованно проголосовали в ООН против "отчета Голдстона". Фиджи, Папуа Новая Гвинея, острова Самоа и Тонга – вместе с Новой Зеландией – воздержались.
Solomon Times Online прямо не пишет о причинах, по которым Соломоновы острова поддержали антиизраильский отчет. Но в заметке упоминается о налаживании дружественных отношений этого островного государства с Ираном.
Издание напоминает, что год назад глава МИД Соломоновых островов Уильям Хаомае летал в Иран, чтобы обсудить – после встречи в ООН с иранским коллегой Манучехром Моттаки – какие выгоды сулит формализация дипломатических отношений с Тегераном, и на какую помощь от Исламской республики можно рассчитывать.
Solomon Times Online упоминает также публикацию в австралийских СМИ о том, что премьер-министр Соломоновых островов Дерек Сикуа в сентябре прошлого года, во время Генеральной ассамблеи ООН, вел переговоры с президентом Ирана Махмудом Ахмадинеджадом.
Отмечается, что Иран мог быть помочь Соломоновым островам в строительстве дамбы и обучении работников нефтегазовой промышленности.
МИД Соломоновых островов заявляет, что данное государство является миролюбивым, "дружит со всеми и не враждует ни с кем". _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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Близится час Х. Израильское радио сообщает что, типа, будет некий отчёт...... Поглядим-поглядим....
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1145999.html Deadline nears for second UN report on Gaza war
By Haaretz Service and DPA
Tags: Hamas, Israel news, Gaza war
Friday marks three-month limit set by General Assembly for internal report as Israel prepares to issue own response.
Friday marks the three-month deadline set by the UN General Assembly for its own report on the Israel-Hamas fighting in Gaza Strip.
But it was not clear if Secretary General Ban Ki-moon will have received enough information from the two sides to produce the requested report. Ban had been asked by the 192-nation assembly to produce a report based on accounts to be provided by the two warring parties.
The General Assembly has already endorsed the controversial investigation led by South African Judge Richard Goldstone on the 22-day fighting between December 2008 and January 2009.
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Israel said late on Thursday night that it would on Friday issue its own formal response to Goldstone's findings, Israel Radio reported. The government is expected to present the UN with a justification for IDF actions in Gaza - without referring specifically claims made in the document.
The Goldstone report, which had been commissioned by the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, charged both Israel and Hamas with war crimes and acts that amounted to crimes against humanity, saying that the conflict dominated by Israel's military superiority had killed 1,400 Palestinians and caused widespread damage to properties in Gaza.
The council had urged the General Assembly to debate the report and then refer the alleged crimes to the International Criminal Court at The Hague. That proposal has so far been ignored.
Instead, the General Assembly asked for its own report based on submissions from both sides - following another recommendation from the 547-page Goldstone report that both Israel and Hamas conduct their own investigations.
On Wednesday, Ban said he planned to produce the report.
But he added: "I have not seen anything yet, so I am not in a position to tell you what my report will be. I will have to report within three months, and the three months is now coming to an end."
There were indications that Israel plans to send the results of its own investigation by Friday.
Judge Goldstone's 547-page report was promptly and strongly denounced by Israel and the United States as biased against Israel. They said its findings were flawed.
But the Israeli government last year answered some of the specific charges in the report, and last week sent the UN a check for 10.5 million dollars to compensate for damage to UN properties in Gaza. The UN had demanded more than 11 million dollars.
Hamas militants in Gaza roundly supported the Goldstone report. _________________ A la guerre comme a la guerre или вторая редакция Забугорнова
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